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#1 Gilly2006

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Posted 05 October 2007 - 04:15 PM

right well im going to be ordering my cam in the next couple of days, i was going to order the Piper race cam kit from Avonbar at 150 quid.
but mini sport do the race camshafts on there own, would it be cheaper to get the one from mini sport and then buy the shims and valve springs separate? or just buy the full piper package from avonbar?

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Posted 05 October 2007 - 04:37 PM

Sw5 from Swiftune is classed as one of "the best".

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Posted 05 October 2007 - 04:42 PM

Sw5 from Swiftune is classed as one of "the best".

i agree! my sw5 is absolutely brilliant! 58.9 bhp from my tuned 1046! dont bother with minisport cams as they are craaaaap and avonbar are a tad pricey for what they are.

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Posted 05 October 2007 - 04:45 PM

Sw5 from Swiftune is classed as one of "the best".

i agree! my sw5 is absolutely brilliant! 58.9 bhp from my tuned 1046! dont bother with minisport cams as they are craaaaap and avonbar are a tad pricey for what they are.

and where do i get the Sw5 cam from?

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Posted 05 October 2007 - 04:50 PM

and where do i get the Sw5 cam from?


Hints in the name,

Swiftune

http://www.swiftune.co.uk/

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Posted 05 October 2007 - 04:58 PM

thats good! what you rekcon? SW10 or Sw22?

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Posted 05 October 2007 - 05:00 PM

sw5-07 ?

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Posted 05 October 2007 - 06:13 PM

sw5-07 ?

sorry its been one of those days, well its a toss up between the duplex kit or the spring kit,
but will i still be able to time the cam up correctly without the vernier?

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Posted 05 October 2007 - 06:14 PM

yeah you just need a set of offset woodruff keys.

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Posted 05 October 2007 - 07:00 PM

or an adjustable vernier timing gears :w00t:

But I am surprised no one has asked, yet, but what proformace level do you want? What sort of driving is it for? etc...

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Posted 05 October 2007 - 07:26 PM

SW22 £145.00
SW23-SP £185.00
SW98 £145.00
310SP

if i where also goin to invest in a cam whoudl they all work with a stg 1 1275 spi ? not going to yet but good to know what me options will be im liking the sound of that 310sp

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Posted 05 October 2007 - 07:37 PM

SW22 £145.00
SW23-SP £185.00
SW98 £145.00
310SP

if i where also goin to invest in a cam whoudl they all work with a stg 1 1275 spi ? not going to yet but good to know what me options will be im liking the sound of that 310sp

You like full racing cams then?

The cams you have quoted are racing cams made by Swiftune. If your on the road, the cams I'd personally look at are;

MSPD Ph2
MSPD ph3
SW5-07
SW10
Kent 286

Depends what you want in all honesty as the "racier" you go, the more of a pig it'll be to drive. It also depends what the rest of the set up is, for example, if you choose to go for a 286, it'll be pointless with a standard head.

As you can see I've coloured the cams above, the green ones, are true road cams, designed to give alot of grunt, and "pulling away" power. The SW5-07 is the "best" road going camshaft to have. With a 1380, a nicely worked head, and a decent build to suit, you'll get around 80-100bhp and up to 100ft/lb of torque. Whereas a Kent 286 - a street racer's favourite, these don't really like to work well until your RPM's are around 2500-3000 (depending on spec) so great for straight line, fast cornering - but pretty pointless for "first off the line" driving.

If you could provide a "spec" to your ideal engine, I am sure one of us can advise a cam for your spec, and your type of driving. But I think in all honesty the SW5-07 will do everything you can ever want it to be. Swiftune quote "The SW5-07 produces MORE power than a 286 below 6000rpm, and when do you ever go above 6000rpm in a road car?"

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Posted 05 October 2007 - 07:58 PM

SW22 £145.00
SW23-SP £185.00
SW98 £145.00
310SP

if i where also goin to invest in a cam whoudl they all work with a stg 1 1275 spi ? not going to yet but good to know what me options will be im liking the sound of that 310sp

You like full racing cams then?

The cams you have quoted are racing cams made by Swiftune. If your on the road, the cams I'd personally look at are;

MSPD Ph2
MSPD ph3
SW5-07
SW10
Kent 286

Depends what you want in all honesty as the "racier" you go, the more of a pig it'll be to drive. It also depends what the rest of the set up is, for example, if you choose to go for a 286, it'll be pointless with a standard head.

As you can see I've coloured the cams above, the green ones, are true road cams, designed to give alot of grunt, and "pulling away" power. The SW5-07 is the "best" road going camshaft to have. With a 1380, a nicely worked head, and a decent build to suit, you'll get around 80-100bhp and up to 100ft/lb of torque. Whereas a Kent 286 - a street racer's favourite, these don't really like to work well until your RPM's are around 2500-3000 (depending on spec) so great for straight line, fast cornering - but pretty pointless for "first off the line" driving.

If you could provide a "spec" to your ideal engine, I am sure one of us can advise a cam for your spec, and your type of driving. But I think in all honesty the SW5-07 will do everything you can ever want it to be. Swiftune quote "The SW5-07 produces MORE power than a 286 below 6000rpm, and when do you ever go above 6000rpm in a road car?"

yeh Thanks for that!! sorry i never said about my spec, errm metro 1275, new piston rings, head skimmed to raise comp, rolling rockers, lightweight flywheel, fully ported 12G95H Head (i think thats the right code) don't know what carb yet tho.
im after sumit thats gona give me some grunt and thats going to work well with the head and the rockers.
iv also just ordered a half system today from minisport, single center exit.

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Posted 05 October 2007 - 08:07 PM

Ok sounds like your just after something better than standard :w00t:
What sort of driving will you be mainly doing? Town, Motorways, mixture of both (choose the one you MAINLY do)

With the spec you have listed, with a decently work 12G940 head, why not consider the MG Metro cam? You can pick them up most places for around £10-£20 in good nick too. Remember that the MG Metro 1275 (on paper) produces 70bhp, and 68ft/lb torque, so makes an ideal pokey motor. With the addition of a light weight flywheel, a 1.3:1 set of rockers, and a single HIF44 or a nice set of Twin HS4 SU's it'll be a right pukka motor :)

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Posted 05 October 2007 - 08:14 PM

Ok sounds like your just after something better than standard :w00t:
What sort of driving will you be mainly doing? Town, Motorways, mixture of both (choose the one you MAINLY do)

With the spec you have listed, with a decently work 12G940 head, why not consider the MG Metro cam? You can pick them up most places for around £10-£20 in good nick too. Remember that the MG Metro 1275 (on paper) produces 70bhp, and 68ft/lb torque, so makes an ideal pokey motor. With the addition of a light weight flywheel, a 1.3:1 set of rockers, and a single HIF44 or a nice set of Twin HS4 SU's it'll be a right pukka motor :)


abit of both rly i drive on motorways and do general driving to college, nah im after something abit more pokier than that to be honest, iv got the money to do it so i might as well. do you think the SW5 would go nicely or not?




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