1989 City E > 2005/6 Mini Vtec
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Dosy
, Mar 04 2005 11:58 AM
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#1
Posted 04 March 2005 - 11:58 AM
Hey everyone, im posting this here mainly to ask for hints and tips,
i have a 1989 Mini City E, that had to come off the road august 2003, due to an unhealthy amount of rust on the front wings and a poor leaded 998cc that wasnt getting lead :sad:
Im in the process of finishing up at college and already have a part time job with an agreement to go full time come may/june.
i have decided to go for the honda vtec conversion cause it is an amazing engine, economic and powerful. i want to document the entire conversion on my site, im writing the php over the next few weeks so it should be up in a month or two.
anyways i would much appreciate it if you guys could give me advice/links to managing the project, what problems to expect and tutorials on how to complete some of the more difficult tasks
thanks in advance :grin:
i have a 1989 Mini City E, that had to come off the road august 2003, due to an unhealthy amount of rust on the front wings and a poor leaded 998cc that wasnt getting lead :sad:
Im in the process of finishing up at college and already have a part time job with an agreement to go full time come may/june.
i have decided to go for the honda vtec conversion cause it is an amazing engine, economic and powerful. i want to document the entire conversion on my site, im writing the php over the next few weeks so it should be up in a month or two.
anyways i would much appreciate it if you guys could give me advice/links to managing the project, what problems to expect and tutorials on how to complete some of the more difficult tasks
thanks in advance :grin:
#2
Posted 04 March 2005 - 12:14 PM
Ahhh, thats been asked a few tiimes on here, such do a search for V-Tec! As far as I'm aware theres four companies doing conversions; Watsons (widely regarded as the best), SAE, P & L, and i can't remember the fourth!!!
Any questions just ask or phone one of those companies and you should get all the info you need!!
Any questions just ask or phone one of those companies and you should get all the info you need!!
#3
Posted 04 March 2005 - 12:25 PM
yeah id noticed these companies, ill probably be using p&l as they sell the modified subframe and extended front end
but what about a mini project in general, do you think i should learn to weld and do the body myself?
also how have you guys worked on a poor shell, ive seen people build jigs and rotate the mini to work on it, is this the best idea, it does look useful
ill do that search now
but what about a mini project in general, do you think i should learn to weld and do the body myself?
also how have you guys worked on a poor shell, ive seen people build jigs and rotate the mini to work on it, is this the best idea, it does look useful
ill do that search now
#4
Posted 04 March 2005 - 12:55 PM
I think watson do these for less money and better quality. Give em a ring
#5
Posted 04 March 2005 - 01:37 PM
loook here http://www.16vmini.net/
and here http://www.16vmini.co.uk/
Watsons in wakefield dont show much on there website so you would need to ring.
P&L have fantastic customer service, prices can be abit steep on some items i find.
and here http://www.16vmini.co.uk/
Watsons in wakefield dont show much on there website so you would need to ring.
P&L have fantastic customer service, prices can be abit steep on some items i find.
#6
Posted 04 March 2005 - 01:40 PM
I've only heard rubbish things about P&L, many people have said they have had to practically re-build the subframe they provide. I think its the front bar, it can twist under strain as it hasn't been strengthened properly. But ask around, and if your in a Mini club, go along to a meet and they'll probably be someone there that will know some stuff.
#7
Posted 04 March 2005 - 01:51 PM
Yeh would strongly recommened looking at some of the vtec conversions at the shows, even only to give the saliva glands some exercise... drooowll :fear:
#8
Posted 04 March 2005 - 02:44 PM
thanks for all that guys,
have any of you learnt to weld yourself?
to have my panels welded for me would cost much more than to buy a MIG welder
im generally capable at learning, but im more worried about how tidy it will look and more importantly how safe it will be. any thoughts?
have any of you learnt to weld yourself?
to have my panels welded for me would cost much more than to buy a MIG welder
im generally capable at learning, but im more worried about how tidy it will look and more importantly how safe it will be. any thoughts?
#9
Posted 04 March 2005 - 02:48 PM
Dosy, i would certainly reccomend learning to weld, but make sure u learn the correct welds for the correct places because iirc u can no longer spotweld at all on a shell.. so be very careful.
It certainly will be rewarding to do most of the work urself. One of the best things about minis :grin:
It certainly will be rewarding to do most of the work urself. One of the best things about minis :grin:
#10
Posted 04 March 2005 - 03:07 PM
What kind of welding is it on the shell, MIG, TIG? I've been thinking of learning myself for when I sort out the clubby!
#11
Posted 04 March 2005 - 03:10 PM
Yeah, i know what you mean about doing it yourself
i know where to get a welder, do you think something along these lines is the best way to learn to weld
any good books perhaps?
thanks alot :grin:
i know where to get a welder, do you think something along these lines is the best way to learn to weld
any good books perhaps?
thanks alot :grin:
#12
Posted 04 March 2005 - 03:23 PM
Basically all you need is something/someone to show you what a good weld and a bad weld looks like, and then it's just a matter of practice..
I bought Petal as my learn to weld project. Had meself a mig welder and a book, and tried out a few test pieces then started. Must admit, by the time I'd got round the car, I was re-doing some of my first welds.
And before you start, invest in a CO2 Fire extinguisher... :cheese:
I bought Petal as my learn to weld project. Had meself a mig welder and a book, and tried out a few test pieces then started. Must admit, by the time I'd got round the car, I was re-doing some of my first welds.
And before you start, invest in a CO2 Fire extinguisher... :cheese:
Edited by GuessWorks, 04 March 2005 - 03:29 PM.
#13
Posted 04 March 2005 - 03:28 PM
oohh on the subject of books, this is the one I read, whether it's good or bad... I'd leave a professional to decide, but it did ok for me.
Haynes Automotive Welding Manual
Haynes Automotive Welding Manual
#14
Posted 04 March 2005 - 04:03 PM
cool, thanks guesswork, good shout on the fire extinguisher, knowing my luck something would catch fire.
ill have a look down in halfords for that book
ill have a look down in halfords for that book
#15
Posted 06 March 2005 - 02:07 PM
Just for anyone else wanting to learn to MIG weld, i found this helpful website
Learn To Weld i found it very helpful, although as it says, practice makes perfect
Learn To Weld i found it very helpful, although as it says, practice makes perfect
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