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[minimad998]

Went ot the autosport show today, and after watching a man demo his product for 5 mins, he showed me how the product uses a 5 spark system instead of the ushal 1 making even wear on the plugs and reducing hot spots, decided to risk it and splash out at the grand cost of £25.
maybe im one of those people that have been cought out but, i think i have seen a diffrence with my mini, she starts first time now and with very little choke just to get here going, this product claims to increase power, save fuel, improve starting (i can vouch for this bit because it does) extend plug life and best of all it comes with a 10 year garentee and a 60 day money back garentee.

from what ive seen of this product so far im impressed!! im just wondering if anyone has seen one of these on the market before and if so have you used one, what did you think of it?

[redhotmini]

only one of those 5 sparks actually does anything - like people think that spark plugs with 4 electrodes produce 4 sparks, well they only produce 1 spark.

[minimad998]

only one of those 5 sparks actually does anything - like people think that spark plugs with 4 electrodes produce 4 sparks, well they only produce 1 spark.

yh i see what u mean weather it amplifies the current/ampage im not sure but im definatly getting a better spark now then i was, and its already proved to be good by starting my car from cold with very little choke first time, have you used one of these before, got sum pics of it bellow aswell

[redhotmini]

ive used one before, it did seem to improve things a bit, but im always dubious about the claims that the makers make about those things.

[sazal]

I got one of these at the classic car show. Ive noticed an increase in power and also my mini seems alot more responsive. Ive also found that I can put my choke in quicker...

[minimad998]

Redhotmini, totally agree with you there i was exactly the same but for a small price the car starts much better than it did before and i did think that i was being ripped off at first but if you dont try you will never now

I got one of these at the classic car show. Ive noticed an increase in power and also my mini seems alot more responsive. Ive also found that I can put my choke in quicker...

havent driven mine yet but i must say the little amount of choke i used to start it and the minimal amount of time i had it out i was supprised, so far i recomend this product but what its like long term well ill let you now when i get my car on the road

[sazal]

Well I think for saying they got a mega long guatantee, tells you that it will last a while! And I think its good that if you dont notice a difference you can send it back and get a full refund!

[oli8925]

cool, these sound good. can you get them anywhere on the net?

[minimad998]

cool, these sound good. can you get them anywhere on the net?

yh just found one on ebay here is the addi infact its the same dealer i got mine from

http://cgi.ebay.co.u...1QQcmdZViewItem

[Dan]

Energy is not free. If this device is making 5 sparks out of the one single pulse that comes from your coil without adding extra ignition components other than what is essentially nothing more than a ferrite core around the HT lead then it is giving 5 sparks that combined together produce more or less the same energy as the single one did without it. You can't amplify without adding power. Fuel is ignited by heat, not pretty light shows.

People have been selling these things at car shows for many, many years. They used to be ball shaped and called a smart ball or a power ball or something similar with the name changing fairly frequently depending on how far ahead of trading standards the guy selling them was managing to stay, now apparantly they are a cone and if the dealer is different from the one I've seen at every show I've been to for the last 10 years I'll be amazed. If they did all these amazing things in any testable way, car manufacturers would fit them. You may have found an increase in performance or it may be entirely in your mind. Did you also fit new HT leads at the same time as this device by any chance? That was how they used to do it, being well aware that most people who wander about classic car shows have a car that is a little behind on servicing they told you to fit their device and new leads to replace the 3 to 5 year old broken down set that were in place already and low and behold the car performs better.

Now I'm well aware that this device may be nothing to do with the old cons that so many people fell for and it may indeed be a genuine functioning part but bear in mind that no cars, not even the highest performance pure bred supercars have any kind of funky ignition doodads fitted as standard. No 8 toothed spark plugs, no balls, cones, cubes or rhomboids of plastic and ferrite wrapped around the leads and nothing that they can't explain the function and effect of to you using real words and actual physics rather than open promises and little black boxes with a window on the front and lots of mirrors inside to make the spark look brighter than it is.

Basically what I'm saying is pay your money and make your choice if you like but buyer beware. I personally have known similar devices to be on sale at shows for many years and have known them to be simply smoke and mirrors, with a lifetime gaurantee of course. Maybe this device works but I for one doubt it.

[minimad998]

Energy is not free. If this device is making 5 sparks out of the one single pulse that comes from your coil without adding extra ignition components other than what is essentially nothing more than a ferrite core around the HT lead then it is giving 5 sparks that combined together produce more or less the same energy as the single one did without it. You can't amplify without adding power. Fuel is ignited by heat, not pretty light shows.

People have been selling these things at car shows for many, many years. They used to be ball shaped and called a smart ball or a power ball or something similar with the name changing fairly frequently depending on how far ahead of trading standards the guy selling them was managing to stay, now apparantly they are a cone and if the dealer is different from the one I've seen at every show I've been to for the last 10 years I'll be amazed. If they did all these amazing things in any testable way, car manufacturers would fit them. You may have found an increase in performance or it may be entirely in your mind. Did you also fit new HT leads at the same time as this device by any chance? That was how they used to do it, being well aware that most people who wander about classic car shows have a car that is a little behind on servicing they told you to fit their device and new leads to replace the 3 to 5 year old broken down set that were in place already and low and behold the car performs better.

Now I'm well aware that this device may be nothing to do with the old cons that so many people fell for and it may indeed be a genuine functioning part but bear in mind that no cars, not even the highest performance pure bred supercars have any kind of funky ignition doodads fitted as standard. No 8 toothed spark plugs, no balls, cones, cubes or rhomboids of plastic and ferrite wrapped around the leads and nothing that they can't explain the function and effect of to you using real words and actual physics rather than open promises and little black boxes with a window on the front and lots of mirrors inside to make the spark look brighter than it is.

Basically what I'm saying is pay your money and make your choice if you like but buyer beware. I personally have known similar devices to be on sale at shows for many years and have known them to be simply smoke and mirrors, with a lifetime gaurantee of course. Maybe this device works but I for one doubt it.

I do see where your coming from, the HT leads where replaced when i re built my engine so i now that they where of a good condition, i honestly dont now how this device works, the only thing that i can think of is that it is an amplifier of some kind but as i said im not sure, i have found that when the plugs where removed that of the normal ht lead did not jump as far as that of the multi spark type also the colour of the spark changed from a yellow to a more white colour, i honestly dont now how you could posibly change the colour of a spark from the plug itself, unless the coils efficency changed as the engine wormed up? I did think exactly that mind if this item was so good then why didnt they add these as an aftermarket add on? ill try it fully if it seems to be a gizmo that dosent work as well as made out or i find that ive been desived ill just ruturn the product within my 60 day money back garentee!

[imabitnaughtyxx]

Energy is not free. If this device is making 5 sparks out of the one single pulse that comes from your coil without adding extra ignition components other than what is essentially nothing more than a ferrite core around the HT lead then it is giving 5 sparks that combined together produce more or less the same energy as the single one did without it. You can't amplify without adding power. Fuel is ignited by heat, not pretty light shows.

People have been selling these things at car shows for many, many years. They used to be ball shaped and called a smart ball or a power ball or something similar with the name changing fairly frequently depending on how far ahead of trading standards the guy selling them was managing to stay, now apparantly they are a cone and if the dealer is different from the one I've seen at every show I've been to for the last 10 years I'll be amazed. If they did all these amazing things in any testable way, car manufacturers would fit them. You may have found an increase in performance or it may be entirely in your mind. Did you also fit new HT leads at the same time as this device by any chance? That was how they used to do it, being well aware that most people who wander about classic car shows have a car that is a little behind on servicing they told you to fit their device and new leads to replace the 3 to 5 year old broken down set that were in place already and low and behold the car performs better.

Now I'm well aware that this device may be nothing to do with the old cons that so many people fell for and it may indeed be a genuine functioning part but bear in mind that no cars, not even the highest performance pure bred supercars have any kind of funky ignition doodads fitted as standard. No 8 toothed spark plugs, no balls, cones, cubes or rhomboids of plastic and ferrite wrapped around the leads and nothing that they can't explain the function and effect of to you using real words and actual physics rather than open promises and little black boxes with a window on the front and lots of mirrors inside to make the spark look brighter than it is.

Basically what I'm saying is pay your money and make your choice if you like but buyer beware. I personally have known similar devices to be on sale at shows for many years and have known them to be simply smoke and mirrors, with a lifetime gaurantee of course. Maybe this device works but I for one doubt it.

I do see where your coming from, the HT leads where replaced when i re built my engine so i now that they where of a good condition, i honestly dont now how this device works, the only thing that i can think of is that it is an amplifier of some kind but as i said im not sure, i have found that when the plugs where removed that of the normal ht lead did not jump as far as that of the multi spark type also the colour of the spark changed from a yellow to a more white colour, i honestly dont now how you could posibly change the colour of a spark from the plug itself, unless the coils efficency changed as the engine wormed up? I did think exactly that mind if this item was so good then why didnt they add these as an aftermarket add on? ill try it fully if it seems to be a gizmo that dosent work as well as made out or i find that ive been desived ill just ruturn the product within my 60 day money back garentee!

I bought something similar when we had a vectra supertouring, we bought a performance kit with a few bits included (induction etc) and this thing called a spark amplifier, it claimed to make 5 sparks that burned brighter and 'purer'? i tried it on my rover cabrio (did not fit anything else new at the time to the engine just gave it a little try) and it DID improve things dramatically, seemed to warm up better and was more throttle responsive. no idea how or what it actually did though

[miRon]

only 1 spark is needed,
i got one of these last year and worked well for a WHILE then it got a bit C**p, so i took itoff,
later i stepped on it by accident and there was 3 washers in there!!!!!!

SO £25 for 3 washers...........never again.

[imabitnaughtyxx]

no way ! ours had a clear casing so you could see like a big fuse thing and 5 capacators, apparently my mates called it my flux capacator behind my back lol

[Sprocket]

The thing with the multi electrode spark plugs is that it does extend the life of the plug. As the spark is produced, errosion of the electrode occurs. What then happens is the gap gets bigger, so the spark switches to another electrode that is closer. In theory the plugs should last 5 times longer than a standard single electrode plug, and probibly cost 5 times as much.