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#16 Sprocket

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Posted 24 January 2008 - 06:36 PM

i got fully floating cosworth little ends on my conrods



Do you have Cosworth Pistons?


no, which is why i used the 'THOUGHT'. Do you have fully floating cosworth little ends? fiesta pistons? cosworth pistons? no? didnt think so.

My friend had 'ford' pistons as far as he knew, information from another person, i said it wasnt gonna be the pistons fault it went bang as pistons are pistons, and they were 73.5mm so they would hav been cossie pistons. cheers.


Ford never made a 73.5mm piston, and like I said, Cosworth is Not Ford.

Pistons are not just pistons, there is a huge difference from a cast production piston, an aftermarket cast piston and an aftermarket forged piston.

And no I dont have fully floating cosworth little ends as there is no such thing. I do however have fully floating little ends, with steel H beam con rods and Powermax pistons!

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Posted 24 January 2008 - 06:43 PM

The spec booklet from Bill Richards for the engine that Alex now has stated the 'Full floating Cosworth little ends', or something to that effect. I took it to me that the pin was fully floating and that they were bought from Cosworth.


To go back to back to the original point of the topic, stick up some photos and hopefully some of our more technically experience guys will recognise them.

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Posted 24 January 2008 - 06:57 PM

Perhaps the bronze bush?

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Posted 24 January 2008 - 07:02 PM

fully floating little ends sprocket are when there is no clamping, the little end of the conrod (the part that attaches to the piston) has a special bush in it, and the pistons do not clamp the gudgeon pin in any way either, just 2 nylon caps on each side of the piston stop the pin from rubbing on the walls. This reduces frictional force at the little end giving me a tiny tiny tiny bit more power (almost unrecognisable) and less wear.

A piston is a piston, ofcourse there are different types but unless u r running a turbo or very high temps there is no need for forged. So in the context that were talking about they are. And if you want to get onto the tiny aspects of piston dynamics, powermax pistons bugger cylinder walls, ive been told this by 3 engineering firms who sucked their teeth when i mentioned 'powermax', they said get omega.

And no, 1430s do not have 74mm pistons, they have 73.5mm pistons with a stroked 84.3mm crank (mines an 84mm br turbo crank though) making it 1425.6cc

Well, i have omega pistons, cosworth fully floating little ends (which exist genius), cooper s balanced and polished conrods, and a turbo xdrilled wedged tuftrided nitrocarbonised crank.

both bush and pin r cossie.



in response to the question, forged cosworth 73.5mm pistons are flat top forged pistons which can be machined to give a dish. They will be very good pistons but if they are flat top make sure you measure your compression ratio and try and keep it under 11:1 to achieve a drivable engine, ideally 10.5:1, or you will detonate holes all in your combustion chamber and pistons. Often cosworth are advertised along side omega forged pistons, very similar, flat top. Stick em in!

if you want to ask someone about identifying them, talk to KAD, they offer them with their 1380 16V engines.

dont a bit more reseach, cosworth part numbers are usually stamped inside the piston, not on the sidewalls but on the otherside of the top
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the part number can be opposite the 'in cosworth' sometimes, dependant on piston. But if they say 'cosworth' and there 73.5 theres nout else they can be.

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Posted 24 January 2008 - 09:00 PM

I do however have fully floating little ends, with steel H beam con rods and Powermax pistons!



fully floating little ends sprocket are when there is no clamping, the little end of the conrod (the part that attaches to the piston) has a special bush in it, and the pistons do not clamp the gudgeon pin in any way either, just 2 nylon caps on each side of the piston stop the pin from rubbing on the walls. This reduces frictional force at the little end giving me a tiny tiny tiny bit more power (almost unrecognisable) and less wear.


Like I didnt know that ;D

A piston is a piston, ofcourse there are different types but unless u r running a turbo or very high temps there is no need for forged. So in the context that were talking about they are. And if you want to get onto the tiny aspects of piston dynamics, powermax pistons bugger cylinder walls, ive been told this by 3 engineering firms who sucked their teeth when i mentioned 'powermax', they said get omega.


No! pistons are still not just pistons even in these terms! Forged pistons are a whole other ball game, and FYI the Highest powered A series turbo engine currently, runs cast pistons. And who were you talking to about the Powermax pistons, its just some ones experience/ opinion. I have information to contradtict this. Not only that but you, or your technical people, do not know which powermax pistons i have. :unsure:


And no, 1430s do not have 74mm pistons, they have 73.5mm pistons with a stroked 84.3mm crank (mines an 84mm br turbo crank though) making it 1425.6cc


Fair enough

Well, i have omega pistons, cosworth fully floating little ends (which exist genius), cooper s balanced and polished conrods, and a turbo xdrilled wedged tuftrided nitrocarbonised crank.

both bush and pin r cossie.


Fair enough, thats what i was asking, no need to get shirty


in response to the question, forged cosworth 73.5mm pistons are flat top forged pistons which can be machined to give a dish. They will be very good pistons but if they are flat top make sure you measure your compression ratio and try and keep it under 11:1 to achieve a drivable engine, ideally 10.5:1, or you will detonate holes all in your combustion chamber and pistons. Often cosworth are advertised along side omega forged pistons, very similar, flat top. Stick em in!


depends which piston, not all are flat top. Flat top pistons are normaly a differnt slug compared to the dished veriety for a very obvious reason.

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Posted 24 January 2008 - 09:30 PM

damn i cant uplaod pics..:S

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Posted 24 January 2008 - 09:50 PM

hope these help....

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Posted 24 January 2008 - 09:51 PM

its not visible but on the otherside of the top theres written cosworth pm0113

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Posted 24 January 2008 - 10:07 PM

Tough as old boots them!

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Posted 24 January 2008 - 10:13 PM

im still confused though...i there a restricted way of how they should be fitted?

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Posted 24 January 2008 - 10:56 PM

nah, offset bore the block to 73.5mm, then get an engineering company to press the gudgeon pins in and ur done ;D

Sprocket, i have done alot of research, infact i bought and sold powermax pistons because of amount of people turnin me away from them. But your right, yours will be 74mm and different. And i wasnt getting shirty, your the one that said cosworth fully floating little ends are mate up and dont exist... i was telling you there not

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Posted 24 January 2008 - 11:05 PM

And no I dont have fully floating cosworth little ends as there is no such thing.


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Posted 24 January 2008 - 11:19 PM

There's only one way to find out who's right......




FIGHT!!!!

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Posted 24 January 2008 - 11:24 PM

im pretty sure they exist ;D since thats bill richards writin up there.

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Posted 24 January 2008 - 11:26 PM

im pretty sure they exist :unsure: since thats bill richards writin up there.


could be jammy;s ;D




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