RIGHT NEED YOUR HELP AGAIN, IM HAVING MIGLIA ARCHES FITTED TO MY MINI.
DURING THE RE-BUILD I HAD NEG CAMBER AND CASTER AND ALL THAT STUFF FITTED FRONT AND REAR.
RIGHT, IM GONA NEED TO FIT SPACERS TO THE WHEELS I RECKON OTHERWISE THE ARCHES ARE GONA SWALLOW UP THE 13X7S, IF I FIT SPACERS WILL THIS MESS UP THE SET UP OF CAMBER ETC?
WILL IT MAKE IT MORE NEG OR JUST MESS IT ALL UP OR WILL IT MAKE NO DIFFERENCE?
ALSO WHAT ARE PEOPLES EXPERIENCES OF SPACERS?
ANY HELPS MUCH NEEDED AND I THANK YOU IN ADVANCE!
WHEEL SPACERS!!???
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flameredturbo
, Apr 03 2005 05:21 PM
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Posted 03 April 2005 - 10:34 PM
It souldnt mess up the geomatry too much, but will make the bump-steer worse because you have 7X13's. Don't go any bigger than 3/4" and make sure you get a set with longer studs, NOT the screw on stud extensions as these can be dangerous.
I had 3/4" on my last 2 and it was fine and made the wheels fill the arches nicely.
I had 3/4" on my last 2 and it was fine and made the wheels fill the arches nicely.
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Posted 03 April 2005 - 10:39 PM
bump steer is going to be your bigest problem with all that off set from the hubs
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Posted 04 April 2005 - 10:38 AM
Off-set or wheel spacers do not affect bump-steer.
It will affect torque-steer though.
Wil
It will affect torque-steer though.
Wil
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Posted 04 April 2005 - 10:54 AM
Wil, you've got me confused, if the rotational center of the wheel is further away from the king pin, aka increasing the king pin offset, then bump steer will increase, as the force required to turn the hub from the outer side of the wheel is decreased....
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Posted 05 April 2005 - 01:16 PM
What do you think bump steer is?
As far as I am aware, bump steer is the hub 'steering' as the suspension moves up and down.
This is caused by the steering rack arm moving through an arc. The angle that the hub/wheel moves will not alter however wide your wheels are.
Wil
As far as I am aware, bump steer is the hub 'steering' as the suspension moves up and down.
This is caused by the steering rack arm moving through an arc. The angle that the hub/wheel moves will not alter however wide your wheels are.
Wil
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Posted 05 April 2005 - 02:29 PM
Yes it is, but I assumed that the lateral forces applied to the wheel when it encounters that 'bump' also came under the auspices of bump steer ?
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Posted 05 April 2005 - 04:22 PM
I don't think so.
I know what you mean, but I've never considered it to be called bump steer.
I don't know what to call it either.
Wil
I know what you mean, but I've never considered it to be called bump steer.
I don't know what to call it either.
Wil
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Posted 05 April 2005 - 07:26 PM
Wil is correct in that bump steer is the steering effect caused directly by the action of the suspension moving up and down and will not be affected by the offset - it is determined by the relative position of the end of the steering rack and the inner mounting positions of the suspension arms.
Can't remember what the technical term is for the steering being affected by wheels hitting bumps other than feedback.
Can't remember what the technical term is for the steering being affected by wheels hitting bumps other than feedback.
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