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#1 Pookster

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Posted 31 March 2008 - 09:59 PM

Can an automatic be converted to a manual and if so, whats involved? More importantly, how much might it cost?

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#2 StevenClarkuk

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Posted 31 March 2008 - 10:27 PM

Can an automatic be converted to a manual and if so, whats involved? More importantly, how much might it cost?

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This has been covered a few times.. If you do a search you might find it..

Erm, different Front subframe, adding clutch pedal and associated system, change wiring slighly to remove the relay that prevents the autos starting in gear, relocating the reverse switch..

Anything I've missed? Apart from a manual engine and gearbox.. snd of course the gear lever/selector rod.

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Posted 01 April 2008 - 07:08 AM

Can an automatic be converted to a manual and if so, whats involved? More importantly, how much might it cost?

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This has been covered a few times.. If you do a search you might find it..

Erm, different Front subframe, adding clutch pedal and associated system, change wiring slighly to remove the relay that prevents the autos starting in gear, relocating the reverse switch..

Anything I've missed? Apart from a manual engine and gearbox.. snd of course the gear lever/selector rod.

steven

What If I intend to match the auto engine to manual gearbox?Is it possible?What kind of modification need to be done?
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#4 imabitnaughtyxx

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Posted 01 April 2008 - 07:13 AM

Been covered many times. almost impossible to mate auto engine to manual gearbox due to the oilways.
can be done but would not be worth it due to the machining required and expertise involved.

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Posted 01 April 2008 - 07:39 AM

I am about to launch into the same thing myself. Parts that I have collected are:

Manual Front Subframe
Pedal Box
Clutch Master Cylinder (+ Slave cylinder of course)
Gear Change

Only the Engine and Gearbox needed to complete the job!

#6 WiredbyWilson

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Posted 01 April 2008 - 08:28 AM

as said you are better off buying a manual engine as is a real pain to convert.

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Posted 01 April 2008 - 09:22 AM

i currently am nearly complete in finishing my conversion form auto to manual the bits you need are:

A manual subframe (you can buy conversion plates i think from mini speed to use the auto one)

Gear linkage

manual engine and gearbox (not worth hassle of convertin the auto engine waste of time and money)

clutch master cyclinder and slave

pedal assembly

possably driveshafts? i havent got that far yet?

its probably better for you to get a whole front subframe with manual box and engine complete on it. its quite a lot of work i dont think i will be doing another one anytime soon but should be worth it in the end. also you got to sort out the wiring.

good luck with the project

Edited by bentedder, 01 April 2008 - 09:24 AM.


#8 Retro_10s

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Posted 01 April 2008 - 10:21 AM

Bentedder, you shouldn't need to change the drive shafts over and Ideally keep the pot joints matched up. Might depend on brake type and whether you're switching to discs etc.

Apparently actually converting an auto engine to manual ISN'T as super duper hard as everyone usually preaches (including myself) There was a post a while back Where resident Gearbox Guru 'Guessworks' and 'Dan' mentioned that the amount of Actual machining needed is not that great, albeit the small amount there is may be a little fiddly.

It is possible to convert an auto into a manual....

However to SWAP an automatic engine for a Manual, you could do it in a couple of ways:

*Swap the whole subframe assembly over etc, so you'd need a manual subframe and mounts to cradle the manual engine.
*Buy the 'Manual conversion engine mounts' from Minisport/Minispares that allow you to fit a Manual engine into an Automatic subframe. But of course you'll still need the Manual Pedal Box, Clutch Master Cylinder (+ Slave cylinder of course) and Gear Change rod.

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Posted 02 April 2008 - 08:05 PM

so what are all you people doing with the automatic engines???

#10 Dan

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Posted 02 April 2008 - 08:09 PM

Sending them to Guessworks for him to work out how to fix auto boxes. Mind you by the time he's got it cracked all the auto gearboxes left in Britain may well be in his unit already.

My personal opinion is sell the car and buy a manual. They aren't exactly rare, but autos are becoming limited in availability.

#11 Guess-Works.com

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Posted 03 April 2008 - 07:37 AM

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Posted 03 April 2008 - 09:20 AM

Bentedder, you shouldn't need to change the drive shafts over and Ideally keep the pot joints matched up. Might depend on brake type and whether you're switching to discs etc.

I believe a lot (if not all?) Autos are fitted with rubber couplings (I think earlys had Hardy Spicer joints?), so you would need to at least change these for pot joints.

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Posted 03 April 2008 - 09:21 AM

Not quite, right about the hardy spicers, but they then changed over to pots, I don't think the auto ever used crucifix couplings as there is a torque issue.

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Posted 03 April 2008 - 09:23 AM

The Auto in my 1976 had rubber couplings - I stil have them on a shelf in my garage I think.

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Posted 03 April 2008 - 09:26 AM

hence the word "think"... but I would defintely say the majority are Hardy spicers or pot..




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