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[bentedder]

im going to be doing a home re spray and was lookin at getin some filler primer for my car and found this is this any good
U-Pol 2k Primer HS, This super high solids primer kit consists of 3lt primer and 1lt hardner. its from jawel paints will this be ok to spray at home is it poisonous like certain paint or is primer different? i have heard people say about u-pol being a good make so i saw this and just wondered if it is any good? or can anyone recomend any high build filler primers that i can buy online?

[bentedder]

link to the web page
http://stores.ebay.c...5QQftidZ2QQtZkm

[Ashdesign]

I used this on our mini last week and found it great. Easy to sand as well.

It is a 2pack though, so you need to take precautions when spraying. The fumes are really nasty.

[bentedder]

does anybody know of a good filler primer i can use that isnt 2pack and that is safe to use at home?an i can buy online.

[jack_marshall]

We use Debeer 2k, high solid, high build primer at work.

Its excellent stuff, `sorts all sorts of problems, easy to flat and you can thin it and put it through a paint strainer if you want a nice flat coat.

[bentedder]

would that primer be safe to use at home?

[In-a-mini]

hat is still a 2k primer that you will still need to wear a mask fr there are a few primers that are celulose but dont give as high build. i think that jewel company sell these if not do a search on ebay there are a few other good companies.

[panelbeaterpeter]

I'm not aware of any non 2k high build primers, although I'm sure there must be some. Celly primer is ok, but you'll need about 6 coats to match the build of 2k HB.

[midridge2]

hi pete, can you clear a few points for the board members.
does 2k primer still need a air fed mask?
what paint can you use over 2k primer eg celly, waterbase.
what thinners can you use to clean your gun with after 2k primer eg celly, 2k.
how many coats of 2k primer do you put on.
how long does it take to dry before flatting.

[panelbeaterpeter]

hi pete, can you clear a few points for the board members.
does 2k primer still need a air fed mask?
what paint can you use over 2k primer eg celly, waterbase.
what thinners can you use to clean your gun with after 2k primer eg celly, 2k.
how many coats of 2k primer do you put on.
how long does it take to dry before flatting.

Yes to use 2K primer you need an air fed, as you do with all 2K products, some are less harmful, solids colours and lacquers being the worst, primer and basecoat being the least, but they are still very dangerous.

You can use any base/topcoat over 2k primer, it's a pretty neutral material, but waterbase would be the safest of all as it's the least aggressive.

Gunwash thinners are fine, basically rubbish quality celly thinners. Failing that any thinners work, obviously the cheaper the better as you'll just be throwing it away.

I put on about 3 coats of 2K primer usually, it depends what you're priming. If you have an area that's been filled and you're aware the repair isn't 100%, I'd do a couple of extra coats to give enough material to remove to rectify any slight defects. Always apply a dust coat first, to save the chance of any reactions or "ringing up" around repaired areas. Then apply 2 thickish coats, allowing each to tack off slightly before applying the next. Add about 10% extra thinners to the last coat, this flows out over the previous 2 coats and makes it easier to flat down.

The drying time depends on the environment, ideally it would be baked in a booth at 60 degrees for 30 minutes, but it dries overnight otherwise. You can tell it's dry by pressing the tip of your fingernail into it, if it marks it's not dry enough to flat, and will clog the paper.

Edited by panelbeaterpeter, 18 April 2008 - 08:38 PM.
I spell like a 5 year old.