17 replies to this topic

[Neilos]

Hi,

Ive just got a fibreglass bonnet that i want to be secured to my car with bonnet pins (one in each corner of the bonnet).

The guy at the bodyshop has told me these could be seen as an MOT failure. Is this true?..

...Basically I need to find another solution if these pins are illegal.

Thanks for your help.

neil

[Rhys]

I personally didnt think so, best thing to do is go to the MOT test center and ask them.

Rhys

[Tomf]

Mine passed an MOT with just bonnet pins holding the bonnet, also that boot is just held on using bonnet pins, so i guess they arent an MOT fail.

[photographymatt]

As long as their safe and done properly, Im sure there wouldnt be a problem. I read an article about removable fronts(held on by bonnet pins) and even thou the MOT people said he was insane for doing it, no problems.

[the.stroker]

as already covered get your local MOT test center to confirm if they are a pass/fail,some MOT stations will fail the car for having a flip-front,even with brace bars,i took the stroker beast to his usual test center to ask if when i fit my flip-front soon will it be an issue,the geezer told me as long as it has brace bars and is secured correctly and all the good electrical stuff works then no problem,essay over!

Edited by the.stroker, 10 June 2008 - 05:47 PM.

[photographymatt]

The.stroker, why do some pass and some fail? As something that is required by law to drive on the roads of the uk...you would think the rules would be fairly standard. I havnt said before, but very nice mini!

[the.stroker]

i think its down to the MOT tester himself,and although he has a set of guidelines to stick to he will use his discretion,at the end of the day its his MOT tester liscence thats at risk,i was told by my mechanic to ask the tester before i fit it just in case,some testers may consider a fibre glass replacement not safe in a crash for example,or if it has been fitted badly ei bodged.

[photographymatt]

I suppose that makes sense, some have slacker moral structure than others.

[Guess-Works.com]

never had an issue with bonnet pins... at all... ever...

[miRon]

i dont really see why brace bars are needed.... not asif an inchor so of box section will make alot of differance
in a crash.....

[BMC Paul]

Bonnet pins are to MOT TESTERS DESCREATION, ie if he thinks the bonnet is safe is a pass, if he thinks its slighty not rgt then pass and advise and if not happy a fail.....

[Neilos]

quality. I will speak to the MOT test station tomorrow or thursday.

Sorry to repeat this question again.

To be fair, i could always leave my original hinges and just put my normal catch steel bonnet on i guess. Just didnt fancy hitting someone and tearing their arm or leg on one of my bonnet pins!!!!

I dont want a flip front or anything, just 4 pins, one in each corner of the bonnet.

[Neilos]

quality.

thanks for that, guess i will go ahead then.

[Guess-Works.com]

i dont really see why brace bars are needed.... not asif an inchor so of box section will make alot of differance
in a crash.....

Brace bars are required because you have remove the inner wing... This panel forms a structurally rigid section with the wing and valance, remove the inner wing and this no longer exists and is unable to restrict the movement of the front subframe.. hence the need for brace bars...

It's got nothing to do with crash impact.

Edited by GuessWorks.co.uk, 10 June 2008 - 09:47 PM.

[dan_w]

(this is straight from the mot testers mouth, he did query for me with vosa this afternoon )


bonnet pins WILL NOT FAIL if the bonnet, flip front or whatever is secure. the bonnet is classed as a panel therefore all panels must be secure.
its not the pins that fail anyhow its the security of the fixture.
all 3 minis we have do have pins.
my manfred has 8 pins.
if your bonnet catch is faulty it will fail, if your pins are ill fitting and cause movement they will fail. no where on a failure sheet does it list, ' bonnet pins' as an actual part of the mot test
hope this is clear. KC

Sorry to bring this up again. Im looking to fit bonnet pins during my restoration but planned to remove the bonnet catch when doing this. The car will be garraged all the time so security is not an issue.

'imabitnaughtyxx' mentions above )in red) the bonnet catch cant be faulty, I asume this means it cant be removed. Dose this relate to having pins fitted aswell? surely there is no need for pins and a latch?

While i am here can anyone recoment a good set of pins? I have seen so many on ebay but you can never be quite sure about the quality really.

Thanks