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[midridge2]

it just goes to show that people dont look beyond what they see,,, blindess is defined in several ways, total blindness, cannot see any thing, can see light and dark, cannot read a certain size print at a certain distance with glasses, tunnel vision etc.
never heard of screen enlarges or magnifiying glasses.

to weld i have to get my face about 3 inches from what i am welding so hard with a full face mask.


yes its not structual but what i should have said was if it was, would it as shown in the picture have passed a mot? and the picture shown did you have to reweld it after grinding it down? it shows gaps to me in that picture.

[WiredbyWilson]

yes its not structual but what i should have said was if it was, would it as shown in the picture have passed a mot? and the picture shown did you have to reweld it after grinding it down? it shows gaps to me in that picture.

finally we all agree that it isnt strutural. and if you had read my last post i did say i had to put a couple more welds on where there was holes.

maybe think your comments through before using the keyboard in anger

Offers olive branch

[midridge2]

sorry, were did i say it was structual, in the picture there were gaps and that is what made the weld C**p and that is what i was trying to make people understand. maybe you should read my postings before typing in anger.
bad welding can make any car a death trap be it structual or not. if you weldind had been good as per picture why did you have to reweld it, because it was not good eg gaps.

[mk3 Cooper S]

This is an amature repair not a money no object restoration. In my opinion is more than acceptable and fit for purpose.

I have seen better but I have seen a lot worse. It helps keep another mini on the road which is why we are all here . Right?

[Jupitus]

Midridge:

The problem here is the way in which you responded initially.

Lets look at 2 approaches...

1) 'what a load of C**ppy welding'

Not exactly constructive/informative/friendly/helpful in any way shape or form.

Now lets try a different approach...

2) 'Just a point of note, I can see gaps in that weld - did you grind it down then go over again to make sure it is truly solid?'

Gets the point across perfectly but without winding people up unnecessarily.

See what I did there?

Edited by Jupitus, 02 July 2008 - 01:01 PM.

[midridge2]

call a spade a spade.
sorry old chap but it looks that your 2nd go at welding could be improved a tad if you grind it down and put a little extra weld in the gaps.

[Deathrow]

call a spade a spade.
sorry old chap but it looks that your 2nd go at welding could be improved a tad if you grind it down and put a little extra weld in the gaps.

He already said he ground it down and there were no gaps.

I'm sure your second attempt at welding was strong enough to attach the earth to a steel girder, wasn't it.

I wish my second weld was as good as that, I'm still blowing holes every now and then, damn gasless *shakes fist*.

Now if you don't have anything nice to say, kindly leave minimadmike's thread so we can answer his question.

Mike, I'd cancel your respray and fix that properly. There's no point wasting paint on rust, you'll only have to do it again before long.

Edited by Deathrow, 02 July 2008 - 01:40 PM.

[midridge2]

i have been a member on this site for a fair bit of time and had 1 or 2 postings.
over the years i have replied to posts and been shot down in flames on many topics but a few month later people from here start using the advice i gave as they found out what i said was true.
eg. retro argued with me that matt black paint was not normal paint will matting agent added, he said that all paint was matt and had shinners added to make it normal paint, when he found out i was correct he deleated all his posts on the subject.
ive had many arguments about paint and prep and when they investigated further they give out the advice i gave when they said i was wrong.
body work is the job i have done for many years working from repairing write offs to classic car restoration to building commercial vehicles from high class repairs to working in back street garages, i started on the shop floor as a apprentice to being a main dealer manager, i served my time as a mechanic and a panel beater.
i work on and repair most of the cars for nefinity club, and what do i get told by people on forums, just because you have done all this does not mean you are any good, that what you do is not right, that we need to see pictures of you welding to prove you can weld, asked by people who dont/never worked in the trade but they know more than me in 40 years of doing the work.
if i was C**p and useless then how come i worked in the trade for that long? who had the job of teaching many many young lads and girls the trade.
many of these young lads/girls are now managers and some have there own bodyshops and still contact me to see if i will come and work for them so they must think i could do the work.
many years ago a leading newspaper did a article about the garage i worked in as all we did was repair write offs and join cars using 2 halfs and it was all praise on the quality of the cars as they were inspected by a engineer afterwards, i was the only panel beater working there.
i worked at a time when bodyfiller was terrible and the only way to make good repairs was to weld and grind with no filler or to use lead solder, right up to around 1972 when solder was still used on production cars eg mk2 cortinas.

who was instremental sp in having the mods on this site adding that bit of information on the top of the page about dont post if you dont know the correct answer? but how many still post a load of rubbish.

sure ive gone on a bit today but if some thing is wrong or incorrect i feel its correct to try and point this out and its just my way of trying to get it across.

[Ethel]

Oooo a good barny

they aren't spots they are plug weld no way you can get a full penetration weld without it showing on the far side. I suppose he could have used a chill but why bother when it will grind down in seconds and be hidden by the seal rubber anyway? Seam welds are weaker than stitches, it's the original metal next to the weld that fails not the weld - which is why cars are put together with chains of spot welds. But hey, it's only the window lip.


Back to the original question

Can't the painter weld? It would be a quick job to tack in a strip.
If you do go for fibreglass, you have 2 options that I can think of...

Either split the seam, insert a bit of sheet steel between the 2 panels, and hold hold it in place with resin over the top. You can get the steel welded in from in the boot at a later date but you'll be lucky not to fry some paint.

Or,

make a former out thick plaggy to clamp to the seam. Lay up a layer of glass on it, put it on the rot and use another former on the other side to clamp on making a rot and resin sandwhich. parcel tape will ensure the former releases and a few drill holes will improve the bonding. A length of woven repair bandage would be good too.

[mk3 Cooper S]

I didnt see anyone saying that they knew more than you they just disagreed with your comments.

I'm not sure who you are refering to as not working in the trade because you may be missing the clues.

As for lead loading(as it's referd to in the trade) rather than lead soldering as you refer to, that is a completely different ball game. That would not stand up to and badly repaired area's either. Times have moved on and there are better products to use than lead!!!

Anyway I am not sure why you have gone off on one about this subject and it appears from your previous analegy that you are always right so why don't you satisfy yourself in this fact if it makes you feel better??

The rest of us will keep an open mind and be happy to listen to and take constructive advise even if we don't agree with it or use it.

It is called discussion and it is usally two or more ways!!!

[midridge2]

fair comment but read the posting again, i said we used lead solder, the stuff for lead loading i did not say i did lead soldering.
ok, its ok to listen to what i advice i may give and its up to the reader to decide if they beleive or use it, thats what i do with others. i may be blind, not stupid, i can read and the small clues you gave were picked up.

[Deathrow]

fair comment but read the posting again, i said we used lead solder, the stuff for lead loading i did not say i did lead soldering.
ok, its ok to listen to what i advice i may give and its up to the reader to decide if they beleive or use it, thats what i do with others. i may be blind, not stupid, i can read and the small clues you gave were picked up.

That's all fine and dandy, but comments like this:

thats C**p welding and C**p spot welds.

Are out of line. Instead of pointing out mistakes and bullying people about them, try to be constructive.

[midridge2]

deathrow why not read the previous posts as i think what you were trying to point out may have been said a couple of times. just been constructive and helpfull, you dont have to take what i said as been truthfull and accurate as its down to you as the reader to form your own opinion on its accuracy and helpfullness. you could wait for more answers and take the best sounding one as the one you will use. remember experiance does not mean a correct answer so you will have to keep posting untill you get definite proof from the other post that one will be the correct answer.



this is my opinion and will in all cases be diffrent from others as my opinions are wrong but others maybe right.
this is just my opinion.

[tuktuk]

but there are certain ways of expressing an opinion ! no need at all to be rude about it...

ok so youre welding skills are supposedly fantastic, but surely theres other areas you arent so skilled with, and how would you feel if people told you youre other work was total c**p.

just think before you post and have some manners

[midridge2]

i dont put up pictures of the things i am C**p at. this is only meant as a opinion from my experiance and should be taken that way. others may have other answers that are diffrent from mine.
other replies will be diffrent from mine but they may not be correct also. ps, i never said my welding was fantastic, could this be grounds for liable or is this just a opinion, as opinions and advice will be wrong or at the readers discretion.



this is my opinion and will differ from others.