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[Guess-Works.com]

http://www.minispare...le.aspx?aid=570

[kevinwilson]

sorry again are these cooper sports then

http://search.autotr...x_mileage=60000

http://search.autotr...x_mileage=60000

thanks

[shedonwheels]

Thanks dan

Thats such a good link from guessworks with all the production dates.

Those two you linked to on autotrader are cooper sports. You can tell by the year and the spec they have. They are both nice!! think I prefer the first one even though the seconds got fsh lower miles etc.

Sorry, in my first post I kept talking about "cooper sportspack" this is what I call mini cooper sports in my head.

Hope i'm right....

Cooper sports are a particular special model of the cooper that were factory produced with all of the sporty spec as previously mentioned.

A "cooper sportspack" (what i kept saying instead of cooper sports because i am thick) would be a cooper fitted with a few sporty touches the buyer has selected such as the arches etc. I have a sales brochure for the cooper from 1999 and in it says...

If you want to underline your Mini's prowess and sporting history, the Sports pack option does the job. We'll fit extremely large, dramatic looking and extra grippy 13" x 6" alloy wheels with low profile tyres and body colour wheelarch spats. You'll also get two auxillary driving lamps and two front fog lamps for total brilliance on drak bends. And a big bore chrome exhaust pipe finisher. Inside, you can give extra emphasis to your Mini's sporting personality by adding oil temperature and battery condition guages. Plus a polished alloy gearknob; complemented by drilled alloy door releases, door pulls and window winders.

And a cooper 's', as dan said, can be any cooper which has had the magic tuning touch at the John Cooper garage.

[redhotmini]

and there were also coopers without the sportspack option that were built between 1996 to 2000ve narro arches and 12 inch wheels. which is what ive got. bog standard and its quicker than a lot of cooper sportspacks.

[THE ANORAK]

i was keeping out of this one because to be honest, i just couldent be bothered, but i have to say a few things...

cooper sports 500s are NOT limited editions >

think about it, what does the 500 mark..... the last 500 production minis.

if they classed them as limited or special editions this would completely cancel out the "last 500 production cars" status.

they were not and never have been classed as limited or special editions.

think about it

as for the whole sports pack issue, i really couldn't care less, all you need to know is that they look out of proportion, slow the car down and ruin the handling, and all MPi minis have exactly the same technical spec so your mini "cooper" is little more than a set of stickers

and the S in cooper S really does stand for nothing. BMC suggested calling it a cooper special but john cooper said "no way. we'll call it an S".

it doesnt stand for special (or sport) and its not an alternative to special, its just an "S"

[shedonwheels]

Me too redhotmini! I think thats why in my head I keep calling the cooper sports a "cooper sportspack" because apart from the pretty looks they aren't actually any sportier in performance, in fact they are worse aren't they anorak!

The cooper sports 500 aren't a limited edition or a special edition, but come on, they were the last 500 minis off the line and they come with a plaque and a certificate so they are pretty special! Everybody loves a certificate!

[THE ANORAK]

yes they are very special, they are the last 500 production minis, but they are not classed as limited editions, even though they were made in limited numbers

and one more thing... all mini production ended in October 2000. there is no such thing as a 2001 mini, its just a 2000 mini that was registered later

Edited by THE ANORAK, 18 July 2008 - 05:01 PM.

[kevinwilson]

Thanks for all your help guys

[Tanya]

I appreciate that this is a bit of a thread revival, but on the Limited Editions Facebook Group, for most of yesterday we were having a debate about whether or not 500 Cooper Sports are a limited edition.

THE ANORAK (one of the old TMFers that I really miss), puts the case against in this thread, but others feel that as a limited run of 500, by default they must be a limited edition. Also, there was an option for dealers to register them with DVLA as Rover Mini Classic Cooper S500, denoting them as different to the Cooper Sports built immediately before them. Not all dealers registered them as Rover Mini Classic Cooper S500, but that's what they should have been registered as.

So, in your opinion, are the last 500 Minis built limited editions or not?

[rally515]

I'd say definalty so yes, simply because they are the last 500 makes then LE automaticaly in my view.

[Black.Ghost]

I can see the argument for both sides on this. Personally, I think the Cooper 500 S Works, of which there were just 25 made, were the real collectors items of the last few. Values over the next 10 years will give us the real answer.