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[Strontium Dog]

Yeah Mate, I'm sorry, it's late and I'm tired I think. Lol 'Tis true that no one was hurt so that's all good! I didn't read that properly I think!

[scrog]

so come on then hands on heart's who can honestly say they have never had a foot down moment or two in there cars
who has never broken a speed limit you know 40 in a 30 no one around 80/90 down an empty duel
carrageway

an how many have tweeked engines and never been on a track (why tweek then ) ok more pick up more touque

drive cars how they should be driven as long as its safe

if you want to race a mate you both know the risk's as long as you dont put others at risk so what

god i will get slated but been there done that enjoy the rush had the points

just have respect for others

[Juju]

Please can we not have another thread about "spirited driving" (or whatever euphemism you like) that is going to be inferred as "unsafe" or "reckless" driving by others?

Peacetime today, pleaase?

[Bazooka Joe]

"some of my cars 155mph capability"
Wow, my mini only does 80!
Seriously though, the bread knife lost it on a roundabout in Trafford Park recently - she's still a learner - and I was trying to pull her out of it from the passenger seat. Even though I got the steering the right way she had the brakes locked and it just mounted a kerb at the front and stopped with no damage or injurys. She was going really slow, it was just wet and full of diesel from them clever truckers who like to fill it up so much, that as soon as they do anything other than drive on a flat level surface it sprays out. The point is, from experience, I could have got out of it no probs. I don't know if it's because of general experience or pushing cars to the limit when I was younger. I used to have a MK1 XR2 that would break away at exactly the same point round roundabouts - 42mph - so I knew I could control it.
I might check out that autocross thing though, because occasionally it would be good fun to have a bit of a burn around again. On private marshalled land that is. And in the wifes mini obviously - I have a seriously slow VW camper!
In fact, I sometimes drive slow on purpose, the closer the car to my bumper, the slower I like to go!

[taffy1967]

I think the reason he got flamed wa the way he came across. The line that got me was when he said "I always do it in the wet" Thats just begging for an accident.


Don't get me wrong I'm all up for spirited driving as a few people could tell you but to do it around town where there were "grannies watching" is extremely dangerous.

I think there was a reason the other thread was closed and unfortualy I can see this one going the same way as the only way to safley drive spirited (by safe I mean putting no one at risk) Is to do it at a well marshalled event, such as a track day or as you yourself said, autotest.

That's not quite true ether! This year at the beginning of the season a car got rolled during a road rally organised by a club local to me. ( I was nether participating or present before any one starts) The event was well marshalled but the car still got rolled!

It is not just the lad that got flamed just now but just about every time some one mentions going quickly that they cop an earful from the 40mph set on here! This is my point and if you read my posts I am trying to put forward a more sensible approach to replying to these posts! I.e if your gonna do it gain the skills first so you don't have to pay the price when you get it wrong!

I think if you read my reply properly I was agreing with you. Yes the car still rolled but it didn't roll into a bus stop full of school kids did it. Thats the point I was making. There is a time and place.

Nail hit on the head there, well said.

[taffy1967]

In fact, I sometimes drive slow on purpose, the closer the car to my bumper, the slower I like to go!

Only natural when someone is being rude and tailgating you? After all if you had to slam your brakes on, the car behind isn't going to stop in time now is it? So due to their actions, going slow is the safest option here.

[haz]

at the end of the day, half (at the very least) of the people on this forum enjoy blitzing their minis, whether people condone it or not its still going to happen. You can preach all you like to these people about time and a place, ill bet 99% of them just find it patronising... Not many people are stupid enough to want to crash a sardine can on wheels.

I do love a good argument tho

[analogue_radio]

In fact, I sometimes drive slow on purpose, the closer the car to my bumper, the slower I like to go!

Only natural when someone is being rude and tailgating you? After all if you had to slam your brakes on, the car behind isn't going to stop in time now is it? So due to their actions, going slow is the safest option here.

I've had a habit of doing this lately, anyone who gets up my arse I'll slow down and take my time, or flick on my reverse light.

Adding to this thread, as soon as I got into my mini I thrashed it, I guess I was just getting a buzz from driving. But soon after I realized It's just pointless.. If you hit and killed another person whilst driving, you wouldn't just damage their life you'd damage hundreds more. I know I couldn't live life with the guilt of taking someone elses life because I wanted to 'test my own/cars limits'

I will put my foot down when I know it's safe, but very rarely.

Track days seem like a good idea, simple. And that's the only place with no speed limits, if you come off you're going into a skid pan or gravel, not a wall or another car.

[taffy1967]

We've all been there, I've done some stupid things in my time and I've had more than my fair share of crashes.

But I take the blame for them as it was my fault and being young and then passing your driving test is great and then being able to put your foot to the metal is very exciting. But I learned the hard way and thankfully I'm still here.

I must say that I've noticed lots of motorists today are going a bit too far with obeying the speed limits. i.e. they do 20 mph when there's so much as a hint of a speed camera in the area, let alone drive past one, even when the speed limit is 40mph. Plus they seem to drive below the speed limit a fair bit too.

Is the fixed and mobile speed camera catching these people and so now their paranoid about getting caught again?

Either way we pay far too much for our petrol, car insurance, road tax, MOT test, garage repairs and even motorway service cafes.

So why jeopardize your driving licence, (push your insurance premiums up) and/or your life just to be clever? Things are a lot tougher now than they were when I first past my test anyway.

Well that's my 2 pence worth.

Edited by taffy1967, 11 September 2008 - 12:12 PM.

[998 mini 25]

I think that everyone one thinks that speed and kills people. sometimes it can be just general accident.

I passed my test nearly two years ago and in my first year i nearly hit a child. It was absolutley nothing down to me i was driving down a road and a kid ran out from his house and straight out into the road whilst looking left. so i had to do an evasive manouver to miss him and slam on the anchors. and i know if i would have hit him it would have been dreadfull and we would both then just be another statistic for a teenager in an accident and a kid getting hit by a car.

so no matter what you do there is still a time and place you still just cant take out the fact it could be just a sheer accident.

[Ethel]

I'm not sure you got my point...

Why would someone start a thread to tell us that they spin their Mini and smoke the tyres? Do they want affirmation for their actions?

You can't post a neutral response and I'm certainly not going to encourage them. Yes, I enjoy driving faster than I'd expect would have got me through my driving test; it may be fun, but it's not socially responsible, and I wouldn't expect others to encourage me any more than I would encourage them.

[analogue_radio]

Either way we pay far too much for our petrol, car insurance, road tax, MOT test, garage repairs and even motorway service cafes.

So why jeopardize your driving licence, (push your insurance premiums up) and/or your life just to be clever? Things are a lot tougher now than they were when I first past my test anyway.

I hit a friend on a roundabout, which was purely an accident at 5 mph. It's costing me 150 to fix his arse seeing as we aren't taking it to the insurance company just to get raped by premiums and such, and then on top of that the hundreds for my front end.

I can't imagine the damage going into someone else head on at 70 mph apart from certain death & a write off.

Like I said, if I know I can overtake a push a little hard in a clear road, I will. Other than that if I'm following someone slow I'll just be patient and follow them, in a 998 there isn't much power for acceleration in 4th anyway .

I'd rather arrive at my destination 5 minutes late than not at all, really don't fancy chucking my life away at the minute .