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#1 CDubya

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Posted 11 September 2008 - 08:59 PM

Hello All,

My first post here, plus I'm relatively green wrt Mini's, so please be gentle!

Our 1998 cooper is suffering apparent electrical gremlins. If left for more than a couple of days the battery is quite often flat - not necessarily completely drained but enough to require a push or jump start. The engine fan also rarely turns itself off after it has first kicked in when the engine is running.

I know the alternator is OK - the instrument volt meter reads between 13 & 15 when the engine is running and having had a multimeter across the battery when running I know it is giving a voltage of about 13.7. The battery itself is also less than 6 months old.

The earth lead from the battery to boot floor is in good nick and there seems to be a good connection there.

We have had a local autoelectrician, who specialises in Rovers, look at it and they reckon that their are no faulty circuits that might otherwise cause a battery drain. Their only suggestion is that the CPU/ECU is faulty and are suggesting that we replace that. Of course this is relatively expensive.

In trying to source a 'pre-loved'(!) ECU I spoke to a mini specialist oop north who suggested it might be a fault with the 'ballast resistor'. Having done a bit of googling I think I understand what a ballast resistor is and what it does but I don't really see why a faulty one would cause the faults we have been experiencing. I have also completely failed to identify anything under the bonnet that looks even vaguely like the pictures I have seen of these ballast resistors.

Does anyone recognise these battery issues as a known fault and/or give an opinion on whether the ballast resistor idea has any merit over the faulty CPU theory?

Cheers!

Edited by CDubya, 11 September 2008 - 09:01 PM.


#2 elvisthepizzaman

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Posted 12 September 2008 - 02:44 AM

If the fan does not shut off then the relay is sticking and is probably the source of the battery drain. The fan is supposed to run on only for a few seconds after the engine shuts off. I would be checking the condition of the fan relay by swapping it out with another from the engine bay or just take it out and swap out a nonessential system relay like the fog lamp relay, its the one on the left side of the engine bay just after the fuse. The fan relay is left of the inertia switch on the right side of the engine bay.

#3 norwegianminiman

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Posted 12 September 2008 - 07:27 AM

mine drains the battery s well... if i dont drive it for a week or so, the battery gets completely drained...

#4 CDubya

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Posted 12 September 2008 - 07:30 AM

Ah sorry, not made myself clear with the fan.

It does switch off when you turn off the engine, but whilst the engine is running once the fan first starts when the engine is hot it never turns itself off again no matter what the engine temp is doing.

I'm not certain if the fan issue and battery draining are related, I just put it up in case.

Cheers.

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Posted 12 September 2008 - 05:21 PM

the fan issue souns like a coolant sensor issue ;)

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Posted 16 September 2008 - 01:34 PM

Latest glitch is radio going all crackly/hissy and not being able to switch it off whilst engine still running. Once engine switched off radio back to normal - one off occurance and radio now behaving normally. Still not entirely convinced by faulty ECU theory.

Can anyone recommend a mini guru in the Gloucester area? Have heard Spam Mini mentioned before but can't find a number for them. Anyone help out?

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Posted 16 September 2008 - 02:37 PM

Clean your ground points, all of them!!

If you want to find the drain, try this: when you shut the car off and you know that you wont be needing to start it up for a few days, pull out one (any) fuse from the fuse box. If the battery goes flat then you know that the system that you pulled the fuse from has nothing to do with it. Repeat with another one untill you find the system that is draining the battery. Then you can look at what runs off of that fuse and continue from there.

Edited by elvisthepizzaman, 16 September 2008 - 02:39 PM.


#8 CDubya

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Posted 16 September 2008 - 06:14 PM

OK, Ground points: Am aware of the one in the boot and the strap 'twixt' engine and bulkhead (which looks a right bugger to get at!) - any others?

I know I probably sound a right numpty but I have been brought up on a diet of 'cover the engine bay in a big plastic panel' modern motors. I guess I'd describe myself as technically able but ignorant! It's just really nice to have comments from people who know what they are on about!

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Posted 16 September 2008 - 06:22 PM

this may sound a simple one but have you checked your battery connectors? they are not the best on the mini's and should really be swapped for say the quick release ones which really tighten up on your battery. the old ones only tighten up so far and what with minis not being the smoothest of rides they can come loose and cause problems intermit problems at that, just a thought seeing as they are only something 2-3 quid might be worth a check? i'm not good with cars but i have had this happen to me.




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