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#31 newbambeeno

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Posted 05 October 2008 - 04:28 PM

The rust may be a problem. I was told by a garage that when they are working on insurance claims, they 'can not improve the damaged area, it has to be returned to the condition it was before the incident'. Which means, that should it need a new panel, they have to put some rust on it, or should they be able to hammer it out, they can't make the rusted area any worse than it is already, which they no doubt will do if they are hitting rust with a hammer!

#32 oli8925

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Posted 05 October 2008 - 04:32 PM

The rust may be a problem. I was told by a garage that when they are working on insurance claims, they 'can not improve the damaged area, it has to be returned to the condition it was before the incident'. Which means, that should it need a new panel, they have to put some rust on it, or should they be able to hammer it out, they can't make the rusted area any worse than it is already, which they no doubt will do if they are hitting rust with a hammer!

well thats stupid and confusing. but you cant weld to rust anyway, so surely whoever repairs it is going to have to take back the rust in that area as far back as fresh steel so they can weld a replacement panel or whatever in.

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Posted 05 October 2008 - 04:36 PM

Well this was my argument when it happened to me!!! Basically I took it to 3 garages and they all said the same thing. 2 of them did suggest quoting me for the work if they COULD do it (ie if it was rust free before the incident) and charge that to the insurance, then charge me the cost of getting the area rust free in the first place.

It is stupid and it is confusing, heck it is insurance after all! I was lucky enough to be able to settle my claim out of the insurance in the end with the other party admitting full fault

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Posted 05 October 2008 - 04:44 PM

well thats stupid and confusing. but you cant weld to rust anyway, so surely whoever repairs it is going to have to take back the rust in that area as far back as fresh steel so they can weld a replacement panel or whatever in.


Or bodge it that could mean it’s unsafe, which were that bit of rust is, as it’s within the prescribed area of a structural mounting would fail the mot. Although most of it would have been covered by the wheel arch and out of sight, so would have passed. :thumbsup:

Edited by 1984mini25, 05 October 2008 - 04:45 PM.


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Posted 05 October 2008 - 06:15 PM

hey.

my driving instructor told me when i was learning to drive that if you reverse out of a driveway, onto a main road, and you hit someone you are at fault no matter what. unfortunatly when i made a calim a few months back my clubman got written off Cat B because of the rust on the rear seams and tatty paint, they said it was beond ecenomic repair or something daft like that. id see if you can get a couple of quotes off bodywork people so you have an idea of what it'l cost.
when the insurance came to look at mine they said it would cost £5200 to change the roof and repair the rear quarter which i didnt think was right but the car was only insured for £2500 so they wrote it off.

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#36 1987_ParkLane

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Posted 06 October 2008 - 05:25 PM

So if the car has to be put back to how it was before the crash, without new panels being brought, then that mean my door that does not open and has a big dent in it, has to be squared back up to fit again, I don't think so, and if my car gets written off, then I will march round his house and make him pay for a new one, or I'll write his car off. Just hope it gets sorted. Begining to doubt it now.

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Posted 06 October 2008 - 08:22 PM

If it does get written off, you could buy it back and repair yourself.

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Posted 06 October 2008 - 08:33 PM

If it does get written off, you could buy it back and repair yourself.

now theres an idea ;D ;D

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Posted 09 October 2008 - 05:28 PM

Ok so a catch up for you all,

Been on and off the phone to both insurance companies and they have both said its his fault, and now either his company will pay a garage to fix it, or give me an agreed amount for the damage. But they said they wont write it off as the damage isn't that bad and its a classic. So going to get quotes tomorrow, so I can show them how much it might be.

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Posted 09 October 2008 - 05:55 PM

Aww poor mini! I'm pleased you're getting it sorted and you're all ok.

If you need a lift in the Vernmeister give us a yell.

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Posted 09 October 2008 - 06:13 PM

Aww poor mini! I'm pleased you're getting it sorted and you're all ok.

If you need a lift in the Vernmeister give us a yell.


Yer cool, thing was I was going to go Grantham on Saturday, wish I had now.




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