Edited by SukiDawg, 21 May 2009 - 05:59 AM.
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Posted 27 May 2009 - 07:11 AM
The propshaft is going to run inside the car? Then you'll be chopping through the rear seat/heelboard to mate with the rear diff?
Posted 27 May 2009 - 10:47 AM
When you are doing a whole car like this you lay out the important things first such as engine position, diff position yada yada.. Then the connecting parts such as a the prop, and hopefully then you fit the structure around it. Right now I am still very much at that stage of fitting the important parts together, and so it looks like the prop runs through the cabin... The shell model is of a standard shell because thats what I have to start with in the real world....
The next stage (and what I'm working on now) is to model the front subframe so I can tie down the engine position along with front suspension components, front bodywork etc. I will start with a model of a standard one, to position everything, and then either modify that or design a totally new one as required to suit the new engine.
I can't really do the tunnel until the exhaust system size is fixed, and I've routed it. The high sprocket position of the R1 engine (relative to the bottom of the sump) does tend to leave the propshaft high at the front - bad for C.O.G., but does enable me to possibly run the exhuast below the propshaft at least until it is past the seats. Then and only then can I detail the cabin properly.
Posted 01 June 2009 - 10:11 PM
Posted 02 June 2009 - 08:24 AM
Oh and I have subscribed also to keep up with all the developments.
Posted 02 June 2009 - 09:15 AM
The mount bosses on the freelander unit are not quite as suitable as the sierra but apart from that they just seem a better prospect. All the kit car boys are on them now..
Looking at ratio, the freelander unit is 3.182 : 1 and the Sierra unit (most commonly available) is 2.88:1. If you work through the gearing it gives me 123mph in 6th at 14krpm for the freelander unit and 136mph for the Sierra. I don't really want to get too involved with mini aerodynamics at 120 never mind 136mph!
Thanks for the subscriptions, I'll try and keep somekind of regular update coming. I am dying to start out in the workshop I tell you, but must resist until its time!
Posted 02 June 2009 - 09:19 AM
Posted 05 June 2009 - 06:49 PM
Posted 05 June 2009 - 10:41 PM
With the weight of the engine all on the nearside, how are you going to balance it out? Just interested!
Posted 06 June 2009 - 02:31 AM
Posted 09 June 2009 - 07:59 PM
Posted 20 June 2009 - 04:57 PM
Anyway, I have been busy again this week, and I reckon the thing is starting to look like a car now. I have some concern over the rollcage weight though. According to the computer, at the moment I am just shy of 70Kg for the added structure. Seems a bit heavy to me, but at the same time I have gone a little bananas with it in places (trans tunnel for one) so there is the possibility of removing some weight there perhaps. I am working on a spreadsheet with all the component masses etc and their locations on the car to give me a theoretical final weight, COG height and weight distribution so when thats a bit more advanced it might be time to get the axe out and try to take some weight out of the design. Its not been possible to fully populate this spreadsheet up until now because I didn't really know enough information, but thats changing as I design bits and decide whats what.
One good thing - I finally found out an all up steel body weight - with boot, bonnet and doors the body weighs 155Kg apparently. I now need to weigh the door and front panel I still have off the red mini and the bonnet / boot to get an idea of the total monocoque weight. I'll guess what the wings weigh... With that done I'll know how close to my target I am (in theory). I guessed about 70Kg a while ago, and I might not have been too far off, perhaps a little under.
This week started out with the engine installation - trying to tie that down properly, and I then moved onto the rear suspension design and the structure required for the pick up points. Exhaust fits front to back, and the exhaust manifold clears the suspension tower of the standard subframe (JUST!). I know where the intercooler is going, and how I'm going to plumb to it from the turbo. Airbox is gonna be a bit of a pain mind - probably draw air from the LH wheelarch (should be nice and cool there). Got as far as I want go with that right now, so I moved on and I'm now working on the rear suspension etc.
Going on the current accepted best practice of using the longest wishbones possible, and using some first guesses of KPI and camber etc for the rear end, I ended up with a first scheme as shown. Before its possible to tie this down properly I need to model in the front suspesion so I can determine roll moment distribution etc... Can't do one end inpendently of the other as thats not how they work! Its now also time to get some brake calipers into the machine and think about rear wheel bearing setup to allow an upright to be designed. This is going to be what determines my outer wishbone pivot positions, and therefore in turn my inner ones - so its important to move the rear of the car along.
Anyways - enough waffle - here's a couple more images:
There are members missing from the back of the rollcage that run up to the main hoop - before anyone mentions it. I've been moving the pick ups about so much at the back I just deleted them for now.
As part of the work on the front end I've started to detail the front of the rollcage more. You can see this in the fact that there are a couple of members floating in space! As a concession to manufacturing ease I have changed the way the front subframe pick ups are triangulated a little, but not got round to moving those errant tubes just yet.....!
Rear End layout...
Edited by SukiDawg, 20 June 2009 - 05:06 PM.
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