if you remove a big chunk of the car and replace it with something different it's not the same car
So every restoration requires an IVA?
not if done properly to the original spec
Posted 18 January 2013 - 07:14 AM
if you remove a big chunk of the car and replace it with something different it's not the same car
So every restoration requires an IVA?
Posted 18 January 2013 - 03:49 PM
if you remove a big chunk of the car and replace it with something different it's not the same car
So every restoration requires an IVA?
not if done properly to the original spec
Posted 18 January 2013 - 04:32 PM
Posted 18 January 2013 - 04:43 PM
Posted 18 January 2013 - 05:32 PM
if you remove a big chunk of the car and replace it with something different it's not the same car
So every restoration requires an IVA?
not if done properly to the original spec
If you really wanted to be anal about it. I`m sure 90% of mini`s out there could be considered for an IVA.
How many people have cut their wing`s for clearance or drilled the wings for fitment of arches
How far do you go with it?
Edited by Bungle, 18 January 2013 - 05:33 PM.
Posted 19 January 2013 - 09:25 PM
Posted 19 January 2013 - 09:54 PM
The point I`m trying to convey is that given when you solid mount and chuck on brace bars the inner wings become not structural. So how is cutting and modifying them any different from say cutting the arches. Other then of course one of them housing the chassis plate. A guy conducting a VIC test said that he didn't mind where the plate is as long as its present. Nor was he concerned if it was freshly stamped or original.
Posted 20 January 2013 - 12:53 AM
The point I`m trying to convey is that given when you solid mount and chuck on brace bars the inner wings become not structural. So how is cutting and modifying them any different from say cutting the arches. Other then of course one of them housing the chassis plate. A guy conducting a VIC test said that he didn't mind where the plate is as long as its present. Nor was he concerned if it was freshly stamped or original.
your still missing the point this is not a structural thing . the 8 points system is all about if you have enough car left to call it the same car
i could remove the pop rivets and take the chassis plate off my mini and stick on my daily clio + the number plates, but in doing so it doesn't make my clio a mini
The point I`m trying to convey is that given when you solid mount and chuck on brace bars the inner wings become not structural. So how is cutting and modifying them any different from say cutting the arches. Other then of course one of them housing the chassis plate. A guy conducting a VIC test said that he didn't mind where the plate is as long as its present. Nor was he concerned if it was freshly stamped or original.
your still missing the point this is not a structural thing . the 8 points system is all about if you have enough car left to call it the same car
i could remove the pop rivets and take the chassis plate off my mini and stick on my daily clio + the number plates, but in doing so it doesn't make my clio a mini
Posted 20 January 2013 - 01:19 AM
Posted 20 January 2013 - 01:39 AM
It's just translating the rules to fit the Mini. The inner wings thing came from some responses in a Q&A with a guy from the DVLA a while back. I took it as more of a general monocoque thing, plenty of cars have bolt on wings and more substantial inner wings than a Min, without a subframe. It's all just opinion, until someone is unlucky enough to put it to the test.
Posted 20 January 2013 - 09:40 AM
It's just translating the rules to fit the Mini. The inner wings thing came from some responses in a Q&A with a guy from the DVLA a while back. I took it as more of a general monocoque thing, plenty of cars have bolt on wings and more substantial inner wings than a Min, without a subframe. It's all just opinion, until someone is unlucky enough to put it to the test.
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