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Posted 24 February 2009 - 08:02 PM

looks like i will have to sell the wife or something as i'm gonna go new i think.....

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Posted 24 February 2009 - 08:35 PM

The pully's with the notches in the wrong place are Maestro ones as the engines are back to front in the cars.


As I said above there inline engines used in lots of models one of which is the maestro.


Maesto's are not inline, they are transversly mounted and use a VW gearbox but the engine is around the other way so when you look at the engine bay from the front of the car, the crank pulls in on the left and the flywheel is on the right, the manifolds are at the front and the plugs are at the back of the engine.

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Posted 25 February 2009 - 11:29 AM

The maestro is a inline engine though, just mounted the wrong way with a gearbox on the end rather than underneath. If you've ever worked on one you'd understand this.

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Posted 25 February 2009 - 11:30 AM

The maestro is a inline engine though, just mounted the wrong way with a gearbox on the end rather than underneath. If you've ever worked on one you'd understand this.



Therefore that makes all transversely mounted engines inline but "fitted the wrong way round" surely.

Anyway it is pointless arguing it now as it is off topic.

Edited by Wilson1275, 25 February 2009 - 11:30 AM.


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Posted 25 February 2009 - 12:20 PM

Maestro and Montego engines are transversely mounted but they use the same pattern of crank as inline A Series engines so the distinction can be useful - otherwise we'd be talking about a transverse engine that's incompatible with our clutches. I think Rover only produced one rubber damper: crank torsional vibration frequencies do vary from engine to engine but I guess the rubber 'n counterweight are effective enough for all, besides tuning and lightening will also alter the vibrations from the factory spec. The A Series is actually very good with crank torsion, hence the lack of a damper on many factory lumps.

Also check the surface condition that the oil seal will run on if you don't want leaks

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Posted 25 February 2009 - 01:01 PM

The maestro is a inline engine though, just mounted the wrong way with a gearbox on the end rather than underneath. If you've ever worked on one you'd understand this.


It's has more in common with the 'inline' engine, as fitted to RWD variants like the marina, ital, moggy and midget, but it's a transverse engine, not inline.

I know it's pedantic but whether an engine is inline or transverse is determined by it's mounting and not by the crank or ancillaries.

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Posted 25 February 2009 - 01:31 PM

The maestro is a inline engine though, just mounted the wrong way with a gearbox on the end rather than underneath. If you've ever worked on one you'd understand this.


Well if you knew your facts correctly you wouldn't have questioned me and made yourself look silly, i think ive got enough experience and qualifications to know what i'm talking about...

The maestro is a inline engine though, just mounted the wrong way with a gearbox on the end rather than underneath. If you've ever worked on one you'd understand this.


It's has more in common with the 'inline' engine, as fitted to RWD variants like the marina, ital, moggy and midget, but it's a transverse engine, not inline.

I know it's pedantic but whether an engine is inline or transverse is determined by it's mounting and not by the crank or ancillaries.


Thank you Guessworks

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Posted 25 February 2009 - 01:50 PM

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Posted 25 February 2009 - 01:58 PM

Just to clear things up a little more that pully would not have been fitted to any inline variants of the A series, it was only fitted to variants like the Maestro that had the gearbox mounted on the end rather than underneath, these variants also had different timing chain covers to suit, they were used on these variants so you could set the ignition timing from the front on the vehicle as the engine is effectivly around the wrong way with the manifolds at the front and the dizz/spark plugs at the rear.

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Posted 25 February 2009 - 03:08 PM

The maestro is a inline engine though, just mounted the wrong way with a gearbox on the end rather than underneath. If you've ever worked on one you'd understand this.


Well if you knew your facts correctly you wouldn't have questioned me and made yourself look silly, i think ive got enough experience and qualifications to know what i'm talking about...

The maestro is a inline engine though, just mounted the wrong way with a gearbox on the end rather than underneath. If you've ever worked on one you'd understand this.


It's has more in common with the 'inline' engine, as fitted to RWD variants like the marina, ital, moggy and midget, but it's a transverse engine, not inline.

I know it's pedantic but whether an engine is inline or transverse is determined by it's mounting and not by the crank or ancillaries.


Thank you Guessworks


LMFTO like I said IF you had ever worked on one you WOULD UNDERSTAND what was been said !!! Which you obviously don't............

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Posted 25 February 2009 - 05:03 PM

The pully's with the notches in the wrong place are Maestro ones as the engines are back to front in the cars.


As I said above there inline engines used in lots of models one of which is the maestro.


Maesto's are not inline, they are transversly mounted and use a VW gearbox but the engine is around the other way so when you look at the engine bay from the front of the car, the crank pulls in on the left and the flywheel is on the right, the manifolds are at the front and the plugs are at the back of the engine.



The maestro is a inline engine though, just mounted the wrong way with a gearbox on the end rather than underneath. If you've ever worked on one you'd understand this.


Well if you knew your facts correctly you wouldn't have questioned me and made yourself look silly, i think ive got enough experience and qualifications to know what i'm talking about...

The maestro is a inline engine though, just mounted the wrong way with a gearbox on the end rather than underneath. If you've ever worked on one you'd understand this.


It's has more in common with the 'inline' engine, as fitted to RWD variants like the marina, ital, moggy and midget, but it's a transverse engine, not inline.

I know it's pedantic but whether an engine is inline or transverse is determined by it's mounting and not by the crank or ancillaries.


Thank you Guessworks


LMFTO like I said IF you had ever worked on one you WOULD UNDERSTAND what was been said !!! Which you obviously don't............


Your just making yourself look more and more stupid.. i have highlighted some pointers for you in the above, the ones in your quote are wrong. one day you might understand

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Posted 25 February 2009 - 06:23 PM

i may be wrong but my understanding is a inline engine is when the gearbox is fitted on the end of the engine and not under as the mini engine is.

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Posted 25 February 2009 - 06:42 PM

Inline = aligned front to back on the car

Transverse = mounted across the front of the car

It is irrelevant where the gearbox is mounted, side top, bottom :withstupid:

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Posted 25 February 2009 - 06:43 PM

i may be wrong but my understanding is a inline engine is when the gearbox is fitted on the end of the engine and not under as the mini engine is.


hey ho! :)

Has nothing to do with where the gear box is, inline mounting means the engine goes from front to back (ie, the crank goes from the front of the car to the rear) and transverse is where the enigne is the other way round, ie, the crank goes from one front wheel to the other. Hmm, i cant explain things very well, but i hope you get what i mean! :withstupid:

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Posted 26 February 2009 - 02:11 AM

Thanks Midridge2 maybe we can teach these young'uns a thing or two :)




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