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#1 MRA

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Posted 11 May 2009 - 05:16 PM

Hi All,

I am looking for any info on the very rare Diesel A series engine used by BMC and some boat manufacturers ??

Thanks
Regards Martin

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Posted 11 May 2009 - 05:19 PM

Where'd you get that from???

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Posted 11 May 2009 - 05:22 PM

Shhhh :P

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Posted 11 May 2009 - 05:24 PM

your not the first person to ask this and there have been topics in the past

you might find some info with a search

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Posted 11 May 2009 - 05:25 PM

Its a "special" vehicle top secret, and until I get some answers can't be revealed..... :lol: It's a customers engine and until I have spoken to him I wil lnot be divulging the vehicle type it came out of and incidentally is going back into, however he has a Mini as well :P

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Posted 11 May 2009 - 05:31 PM

Here's a manual for those engines:
http://www.instructi...rs/BMCminiT.htm

They were fitted to the BMC-Nuffield 'Mini Tractor' (funny name, eh? :P).

I hope you know how jelous I am :lol: I want one of those engines.
There's a guy in Australia running one with bio diesel & turbo in a Moggy Minor Van :)
I once tried t find out more - with no luck at all...

I think it is redlined at 4000rpm? Might be tricky, even with a MPI FD...

Please keep us updated! :) Any more pics? Especially interested of a view to the combustion 'chamber's and pistons :(

Edited by Asphalt, 11 May 2009 - 05:33 PM.


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Posted 11 May 2009 - 05:39 PM

That's got to be rarer than rocking horse droppings!

Never knew the A was manufactured as an oil burner - will folow this thread with interest!

Sean

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Posted 11 May 2009 - 06:04 PM

http://www.the-norfo...shop-manual.pdf

think this is an a series

Edited by yeti21586, 11 May 2009 - 06:05 PM.


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Posted 11 May 2009 - 06:05 PM

Not that rare - as said it was fitted to the BMC Mini Tractor which later became the Nuffield 9/16 Tractor which later became the Leyland 154 tractor.

Whilst there are similarities between it and the petrol A series they are very differnet in reality - very few (if any) parts are interchangeable. As most engines of the era were designed in a similar way they all have similarities - look at the pre cross flow Fords they are similar in places to the A series.

As said, in a car I think they would be very slow and noisy. If geared for speed they would have bu66er all acceleration (unless you had a 9 speed box like the tractors!).

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Posted 11 May 2009 - 06:09 PM

Not that rare - as said it was fitted to the BMC Mini Tractor which later became the Nuffield 9/16 Tractor which later became the Leyland 154 tractor.

Whilst there are similarities between it and the petrol A series they are very differnet in reality - very few (if any) parts are interchangeable. As most engines of the era were designed in a similar way they all have similarities - look at the pre cross flow Fords they are similar in places to the A series.

As said, in a car I think they would be very slow and noisy. If geared for speed they would have bu66er all acceleration (unless you had a 9 speed box like the tractors!).



May be not so rare, however these engines where not fitted to the Leyland 154 that's based on the MGB 1800 engine :P

Regards Martin

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Posted 11 May 2009 - 06:12 PM

They must've changed after the Nuffield then - the Leyland was basically the same tractor but I guess needed modernising to 'keep up'. The Leyland stuff isn't old enough for me!!

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Posted 11 May 2009 - 06:20 PM

They must've changed after the Nuffield then - the Leyland was basically the same tractor but I guess needed modernising to 'keep up'. The Leyland stuff isn't old enough for me!!


I think the 950cc engine was only used in the first 9/16, then got a 1500 and finaly the 1800cc engine!? But then I know close to nothing about tractors :P

@Martin: Looks like it has 11 head studs? Do you have any more pictures of the engine? Eypecially of the head? :lol:

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Posted 11 May 2009 - 06:20 PM

I have had a look at the manual, thanks Asphalt, I don't think that it is a 1500 though, as the person who has it says that it is identical at the block to (in this case) sump interface.....

Just imagine ........ a Cooper S diesel of the 60's :P

PS, I have a funny feeling that you will see this vehicle at a show near you.... well may be a show anyway :lol:

Regards Martin

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Posted 11 May 2009 - 06:23 PM

Yes the block says 950cc Diesel........ 950D :P also used in Boats :lol:

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Posted 11 May 2009 - 06:40 PM

Yes the block says 950cc Diesel........ 950D :) also used in Boats :)


Yes, your's is a 950cc :( But I think the tractor got a 1500cc engine at some point!?

I have a funny feeling that you will see this vehicle at a show near you.... well may be a show anyway


Oh - that sounds interesting! :(

Would love to see a Mini with that 'hard' pre-chamber diesel sound :P
I'm pretty sure that would turn much more heads than any riced up Corsa :lol:

Martin, I think this sounds like a good adress for spares:
http://www.bmcminitractor.co.uk :(

Cheers,
Jan




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