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#16 THE ANORAK

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Posted 04 July 2009 - 07:11 AM

i had the neighbours complain when i was working on my car. i had a visit from some chap from the council and he said it was fine as long as i kept withing the allowed times.

he was more concerned that i was repairing cars as a business. once he was satisfied that it was my car and i was simply doing repair work on my vehicle he was happy.

there will be set times in your area when you can work find out what they are and stick to them, then you can't be touched :proud:

actually the guy was more concerned about the scrap Mk1 i had on my drive at the time, he said that if he had complaints about that then he would have more powers to act upon it !!!!!!

another thing to remember is the dust that the grinding makes, it can and will travel a long way. the lady over the road from me showed me "my dust" all over her car (the dust was red :proud:). dust sheets, tarps or even a gazeebo can help with this ;D

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Posted 04 July 2009 - 08:39 AM

I know it's difficult but do try to be considerate, which it appears you are being, 09:00-20:00 is to my mind considerate. Are you doing the work in the garage or on the front, if in the garage, can you shut one of the doors, this often stops quite a bit of the sound. If outside is it possible to park another car at the side again to shield the noise.

It might be a good idea to go over & talk, but not if it's going to be confrontational, consider taking somebody with you maybe older to try to diffuse the situation. Not sure of your family situation, but could you father go with you?

Alan...

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Posted 04 July 2009 - 08:52 AM

Sounds like a moaney ol bastid?

You can be as considerate as you want say between 11am and 4pm? If people want to moan they'll moan, not your fault as your not doing anything wrong.

I'd say shaft em? Who cares, you aint gonna win with them as they have already decided you are satan! :proud:

Just keep making noise and finish the car and dont expect any xmas cards this year from them?

Dont try to be nice with awkward people, just be more awkward.

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Haha, im likin that response Kam,
yeah its so true, she is a retired old lady who has nothin better to do, jus annoyin why she hasnt spoken to me in person and she has gone around every1 in the road bitchin bout me!
yeah, the thing is the nextdoor neigbour on the side with my garage on hasnt got a problem with it at all and has backed me up with it, all he has said is that he wouldnt want me makin much noise after 8.00 because thats when his daughter goes to bed, which is fine and i respect that and i wouldnt make noise after that time anyway!

Damned annoyin old bag!!! lol

cheers


Ha, yeah, I have a woman like that on my estate. I had a sub and amp and all that in my car, and I used to come home with it playing. Obviously at night I was considerate and turned it right down, but when I'm coming home in the middle of the day, I used to just leave it, people are only guna hear it for the few seconds I'm parking up and when I'm pulling off. But this woman came down to my house and made complaints to my mum threatening to call the police! Didn't bother coming to me at all. I just kept doing it and ended up leaving a big number 11 outside her house!

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Posted 04 July 2009 - 05:13 PM

Hia

I am in need of some advise, im sure that people on here have had similar isues!!!

Basically i am restoring my Riley Elf and a neigbour (over the road and down a bit) has complained about me grinding!
Dont get me wrong i appriciate that it may be annoying for them but i try to be considerate, dont make noise late in the evening or for prolonged periods.
What id like to find out is, where do i stand in regards to the law, is there noise limits and times that should be adhired to so i dont get in trouble with enviromental health / police ect.
I have spoken to my net door neigbour on the side that attaches to my garage and he hasnt got any issues (good chap!) lol
I am just a little concerned as she seems to be asking everyone i the road if they have a problem with it and i cant work out why!!!
Its really annoying because i want to get it all finished this summer and i am already puttin off doing work on it because of the noise!!!
Argggh
Any info would be greatly appriciated!
thanks

Ive been in a situation like this neighbours moaning about me using my garage to work in ,parking car outside my own house ,knocking on doors on street saying my car is noisy ,ringing police to say i was uninsured which i wasnt .But since all this ive been making some wrought iron railings and they dont moan about that they just have the cheek to say there nice will you do us some .Reply should be **** YOU and go out and buy some but im to polite for that

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Posted 04 July 2009 - 05:47 PM

Thanks all
That has kinda put my mind at ease!
I will contact the council / enviromental health on monday and see what they have to say.
It is under a brick carport with wooden gates and a perspex roof so i cant see that it is that noisy over the road!
yeah she seems like a daily mirror reader, so probs thinks im a knife carrying young thug, but i dont carry a knife! lol :D
will update when i have contacted the council!

thanks again!

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Posted 04 July 2009 - 05:53 PM

id just ignore them if it was me i mean if ur not takin the p*ss like after 10 at night and befor 10 in moring then ignor them not like they can do much mean people who live infront for garages like across road from where i work dont complain about grinding and banging and things and we do that from 8:00 in morning so im sure if ur conciderate and polite to them when they do complain there shouldent be any problem

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Posted 04 July 2009 - 05:56 PM

my dad had his boat parked outside our house, wasnt in anyones way (well blocked the pavement but hardly anyone uses it) yet some old sod from down the road who doesnt actually come past our house still moaned about it.

it happens all over the place and as you've said you are being considerate so i wouldn't worry about it. Needs be then just have a word with the local council and see what they say


i love it how they mone about cars and stuff hanging off drives onto the pavment yet alot of them park on the street without puting there wheels on the pavement but this wont leave any room for say a fire engine to get down the road in an emergancy

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Posted 04 July 2009 - 06:16 PM

my dad had his boat parked outside our house, wasnt in anyones way (well blocked the pavement but hardly anyone uses it) yet some old sod from down the road who doesnt actually come past our house still moaned about it.

it happens all over the place and as you've said you are being considerate so i wouldn't worry about it. Needs be then just have a word with the local council and see what they say


i love it how they mone about cars and stuff hanging off drives onto the pavment yet alot of them park on the street without puting there wheels on the pavement but this wont leave any room for say a fire engine to get down the road in an emergancy



Hmmm that made me think, she parks her car (if you can call it that) on the corner and sometimes double parks as well!
thats something i can challange her about if she has another go!
and because they are all old farts down my street there is always ambulances and fire engines (when they burn there toast) coming up and down and they really struggle!

This proves that no one is perfect! lol

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Posted 04 July 2009 - 06:28 PM

hi; i asked someone i know in oxford council about this (they're the noise polution officer :D and its bloody unlikely that anyone could have a case against you unless you're doing it midnight or something silly. They would first have to make a complaint, get the council to come and sit at their house and listen (and measure) the noise, and do it more then once in order to slowly build a case. by which time you'll have either finished your car or the council will have put them on a miserable old biddy list. defo contact your local council and i hope they take your side on it!

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Posted 05 July 2009 - 03:29 PM

I wouldn't even worry about it, i've been down this road before where the council has come out to see, check and hear the problem for themselves and the only way they can do this is by them getting a phone call from old moaney coot, now when i was in this position it took them between an hour and 2 hours just to turn up then they will sit in the house being affected ( yes that would be the old bastid's ) and insist that all the doors and windows were shut so they can gauge the noise level which let me tell you has to be extremely loud as annoyingly loud does'nt cut it. i went through 9 months of hell with butt plugs for neighbours that were right next door i had a 2 year old girl and they insisted on playing music loudly and with heavy HEAVY base every day between the hours of 8pm until 8am as lionel ritchie once sang ALL NIGHT LONG. my daughter couldn't sleep and i had to get up at 3:30am most mornings so as you can guess i didn't get much sleep, needless to say we moved out as the council don't do rugger all about annoying levels of noise especially for during the day plus they have to have more than one complaint for them to act at all which is why your moaning codjer has been asking for support from other neighbours. councils realise that people have to live there lives and that were not in prison's they will more than likely be on your side so like i said don't even worry about it.

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Posted 05 July 2009 - 03:35 PM

my dad had his boat parked outside our house, wasnt in anyones way (well blocked the pavement but hardly anyone uses it) yet some old sod from down the road who doesnt actually come past our house still moaned about it.

it happens all over the place and as you've said you are being considerate so i wouldn't worry about it. Needs be then just have a word with the local council and see what they say


i love it how they mone about cars and stuff hanging off drives onto the pavment yet alot of them park on the street without puting there wheels on the pavement but this wont leave any room for say a fire engine to get down the road in an emergancy



the old bloke who complained about my dads boat lives right by the island on my road and constantly parks his car on the pavement so jsut as you come of the roundabout you have to keep to the other side of the road to avoid hitting his car.

one day i will come with a bulldozer and flatten his car

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Posted 05 July 2009 - 03:52 PM

I'd just ignore it. I can see where they're coming from because some people just want peace & quiet, however it could be worse, you could be having parties every night. At least you aren't depriving them of sleep.

Dont know about in your area but we had trouble a couple of weeks ago with chavs playing RIDICULOUSLY loud music late at night and having a party.. each to their own but when it's keeping the whole street awake it's a different matter... especially when they're out drinking in the street & shouting rather than talking etc. Called the police - who referred me to the local council's noise nuisance line. She said the process is that they send someone out to the "victim"'s house to take a reading in db's as to how loud the noise is from inside your property.. and then if it's too loud, they'll go around to the offending person's house and try sort it out. I didnt want that because then it would be obvious that it was me who grassed them up, besides she said "we probably wont be able to get anyone out tonight anyway".

So from experience as the one being disturbed by noise, I wouldn't worry yourself too much that someone is going to come around and condemn your grinder as too noisy :D

P.s. in my area the times you're "allowed" to be noisy, I believe, are between 7am and 11pm, not that it makes a blind bit of notice because the chance of anyone doing anything about noise out of those times is slim anyway

Edited by yorkshirechris, 05 July 2009 - 03:55 PM.


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Posted 06 July 2009 - 11:40 AM

Matt i think you need to be carefull with some of the advice on this thread

I actually work in local government and my father in law is the senior envioromental health officer who i have had dealing with my parents noisy neighbours, with my parents have so much aggro i have learnt alot, there is no time limit ie: between 10am and 6pm when it comes to noise its about quality of life for your neighbours and whats deemed reasonable noise for quality of life, if your out in the garage all day and/or night for 9hrs hammering welding and grinding day in day out this would be considered unreasonable for a residential area, if its a couple of hrs a day and is not really loud (regardless of how the sound carries) i doubt that would be classed as unreasonable, i think your problem is not how loud you are being its the type of noise grinding is pretty irratating and the sound carries.

My parents issues was with bass from the students next door that wanted to be DJ's the noise was deemed unreasonable yet they would only practice 3hrs a day 2-3 times a week, unreasonable because it was right next door and because of the volume, even with the police and enviromental health involvment i did not stop until i walked into there house and went and punched this idiot

Noise is a really emotional subject for the "victim" my mum wont go into a shop now if loud musics on, if i was you i would go and have a chat with the lady about the noise issue, put a friendy face to the problem explain that you have this hobby and how can you both get around the noise issue, you dont want to start a war as you still both have to live there

Edited by wolfie, 06 July 2009 - 11:42 AM.


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Posted 06 July 2009 - 12:28 PM

Matt i think you need to be carefull with some of the advice on this thread

I actually work in local government and my father in law is the senior envioromental health officer who i have had dealing with my parents noisy neighbours, with my parents have so much aggro i have learnt alot, there is no time limit ie: between 10am and 6pm when it comes to noise its about quality of life for your neighbours and whats deemed reasonable noise for quality of life, if your out in the garage all day and/or night for 9hrs hammering welding and grinding day in day out this would be considered unreasonable for a residential area, if its a couple of hrs a day and is not really loud (regardless of how the sound carries) i doubt that would be classed as unreasonable, i think your problem is not how loud you are being its the type of noise grinding is pretty irratating and the sound carries.

My parents issues was with bass from the students next door that wanted to be DJ's the noise was deemed unreasonable yet they would only practice 3hrs a day 2-3 times a week, unreasonable because it was right next door and because of the volume, even with the police and enviromental health involvment i did not stop until i walked into there house and went and punched this idiot

Noise is a really emotional subject for the "victim" my mum wont go into a shop now if loud musics on, if i was you i would go and have a chat with the lady about the noise issue, put a friendy face to the problem explain that you have this hobby and how can you both get around the noise issue, you dont want to start a war as you still both have to live there


Im with Wolfie on this one, some of the comments on this thread made me laugh, Im glad I dont live near some of you!!!

Go see the woman, apologise for the noise and above all keep it civil. You know she has a problem with the noise, even if she is old etc
Give her some sort of guessimate as to how much longer the grinding will take then maybe life will retrn to normal in your road.
People react differently to different situations, she obviously doesnt want to confront you about it for whatever reason, so its down to you to be the bigger person and make the first move >_<

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Posted 06 July 2009 - 01:22 PM

Wow look at that conciderate clever advice, well done chaps >_<




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