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[chappy]

garrett3 chill...

everyone is gonna be pretty *drunk* if this is true, and we can't really be sure its true unless we get official documents from DVLA etc.

if your mate has said its true, then its about as justifiable as my mates, dads, best mates, nan saying the same thing. I don't know who Andy is, nor does hardly anyone else on here.


If we can get some actual Documentation on this from DVLA etc. then we can start to worry/panic/cry/write letters/petition/start a mass cruise of modded cars in protest!


Sam






P.s. that last bit would be SOOO cool!

[Joloke08]

If its the case im Sure Berni And Leepu from Chop Shop are going to be needing new jobs
its hard to distinquish what any of there cars are?

Like the Bacon Sarni Bentley
Will they get it confiscated because it has no ketchup?

Huggz
Jodie

Boris is due an MOT maybe i should hide the Strawberry Magic Tree as its not a genuine Rover One

Edited by Joloke08, 13 July 2009 - 09:36 PM.

[Jordie]

Garrett dude.

If your so highly regarded and the info is on the net, then why cant you link the two together and post the documents that confirm what your saying.

You make me laugh mate. You seem to want people to respect you for this information youve provided, but you cant provide the documents to confirm it from VOSA themselves.

Jordie

[1275 SPRITE]

You said something about an SVA test is not adequate for a modified car, that a load of bull, as all Jap cars imported into the UK only have an SVA test, even if its a monster skyline running 1000hp, all they need is an SVA.

[1987_ParkLane]

*melon* government, its a good job I'm qualifying as an MOT tester next year, there will be no tick in that box for me

Always god to know an inside person lol.

To be honest, I think its a load of bull poo, how can anything be that ridiculous? Next they will be bringing in a law for you not to breathe more than 14.76528493624167394725445754374624242424242424243535353353535354657677897079685
65451413243546576869509484744645423131343 times a minute .

[E.L.M.O]

I cant see it being true. At the end of the day it IS in line with what the government would like (an excuse to remove all modified and older cars off the road) but there are so many of them, and the cases would be so long and drawn out with complaints and appeals that they just couldn't enforce such a ruling. It would be insaine and impossible.

If it were true and I noticed someone at a mini show writing my number plate down at a show, I will be very tempted to physically remove their eyes and their fingers to stop them!

Edited by E.L.M.O, 13 July 2009 - 09:43 PM.

[slyoldfox2001]

it makes an interesting read even without the evidence to back it up.

dont forget the government wants to scrap alot of older cars so they may/will use any methods they deem creditable.

asking the mot statons to a tick is box is a bit open ended and must be substantiated.


i dont know why garrett33 is getting all the stick.

if u dont know for yourself then look it up and make ur own decisions. stop being sheep and following the crowd.


i dont see it thats he's scare mongering.......i just see it as a useful heads up that needs to be checked out further if u plan to heavily modify ur car.


however i'm ok and it wont affect me as i have a standard clubman estate, that i intend to keep standard.

[ferrit]

The SVA is being changed to enable the Governmant (VOSA) to bring in European type approval. I looked into this quite alot re importing Japanese cars as these used to need a model report or be over 10 years old to avoid SVA. Basically VOSA want to be able to say that any newly registered cars on UK roads meet pan European standards. This "no mods" after 2012 without inspection comes in seems a bit heavy handed even for the UK Government. What is likley to happen is that most major aftermarket suppliers will need to CE conformity certification for their products. 9 times out of 10 the MOT man will be happy to see that minor mods have a CE or E mark. (A prime example is Angel Eyes lights)

Personally I feel if you carry out pretty major structural alterations to a vehicle it should be assessed for safety by an approved engineer but what we are talking about in most mini owners cases arent major.

With imports there was never any talk about the IVA being back dated they just set a dealine after which all vehicles being brought in would need a Model Report that meets the CE type approval format. So why should it be any different for mildly modded domestic cars.

I wait with baited breath to see if this is as serious as is being made out

[aston19uk]

what a load of C.R.A.P. Theres millions of cars users and say many people modifly there cars. There would be an outrage and petitions signed for this. Like you guys said busniesses would go bust. What utter crap. I wonbt be losing any sleepless nights. How many civil servants would it take to police this? And the cost and waste of taxpayers money? Never. CRAP. End of.

[millermilla]

There may be a little truth in this but no MOT tester in the land is going to know every single, make, model and eddition of car on the road. They are not going to know the difference between a 1982 mini city e and a 1990 ERA for instance so they would only be talking about cars which have been significantly modified. The MOT has to cover a huge variation in car makes and models so I dont think they can ever be too specific. A 1989 Citroen 2CV is tested to the same limits as say a 1989 Range Rover yet the price and quality of the vehicles could not be further apart. One of the only parts of the MOT test that is vehicle specific is the emmisions test and it took them a good 5 or so years to get that right. Imagine having to compile a list / pictures and specifications of every make, model and eddition ever made. it would never happen!

[Mini-Mad-Craig]

i dont know why garrett33 is getting all the stick.

+1, Ive seen his work and its outstanding, hes not the kind of guy that would post this kind of thing if he himself didnt think it was genuine. The truth or not all he's trying to do is inform us all.

[1275 SPRITE]

*melon* government, its a good job I'm qualifying as an MOT tester next year, there will be no tick in that box for me

Always god to know an inside person lol.

To be honest, I think its a load of bull poo, how can anything be that ridiculous? Next they will be bringing in a law for you not to breathe more than 14.76528493624167394725445754374624242424242424243535353353535354657677897079685
65451413243546576869509484744645423131343 times a minute .

Haha, I start up my own buisiness MOT testing modified cars (well, standard )
I'd be rich in no time

[huntface]

You said something about an SVA test is not adequate for a modified car, that a load of bull, as all Jap cars imported into the UK only have an SVA test, even if its a monster skyline running 1000hp, all they need is an SVA.

To put another spin on it, perhaps the SVA should be tightened up a bit. A couple of years ago my uncle imported a car from the USA and he sent it to a firm that specialised in brining imported cars up to code.

When he took delivery of the vehicle, the workmanship to get it through the SVA was absolutely appalling. Bits hanging off here there and everywhere, and this car had passed!

Tape! I forgot tape. Gaffer tape holding bits of the car together....nice and safe i'm sure

Edited by huntface, 13 July 2009 - 09:41 PM.

[Jordie]

So far this is one person's view on what they've heard or possibly read.

If you've ever read a VOSA document, it can be interpreted in several ways.

If one person reads it wrong or doesnt grip the context of the article fully and passes this incorrect information on, then everyone ends up getting the wrong information. It doesnt matter how reputable or highly regarded that person is, they can still read and understand it wrong.

Hence the requests for official documents for people to read themselves.

Jordie

[1275 SPRITE]

regarding engine changes, how is an mot tester going to tell the difference between a 998 and 1275?