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[Dan]

Not entirely sure how you came to that conclusion if I'm honest!

Quality, longevity, price, resolving power, depth of field, depth of focus, colour balance, contrast ratio......

Film sees in exactly the same way as the human eye does, digital doesn't. This is what I do for a living. Whenever I work with digital now (which is mercifully still fairly rare), we are asked to make it look like film. Nobody likes the look or feel of raw digital footage, a LUT is always applied to make it look like a particular film stock. The only benefits of digital are in the point and shoot markets. Be it press photography or amateur who are not interested in processing or understanding how their camera works. This is a way for someone at home to get selective printing and a way for a press photographer to shoot a huge amount of photos and get them directly into print. Anyone with a darkroom could already print selectively (and sell back their own silver too) so that benefit is irrelevant. I do enjoy being able to snap a preview shot when I'm out with my DSLR but to be honest it gets me nothing that bracketing can't. Do you know that this is pretty much the only country in the world where there is more or less a conspiracy to force us to go digital? In the US and in Japan there is still a huge market for film because people appreciate that they are two different imaging processes. We were truly betrayed here when our largest high street photographic chain decided that film was dead.

[taffy1967]

This thread and classic camera's instantly made me think of this 1966 British classic film: -











Very surreal and it had a profound influence on Austin Powers.

[Bean]

Blow-up's a completely bizarre film!!

[taffy1967]

Yes but I love classic British completely bizarre films. I've got them all on DVD.

Edited by taffy1967, 18 December 2009 - 08:48 PM.

[Matt.P]

Matt - Any idea what Brownie it is? It could have 120 film in it!! If it does, you'll be just fine!!

Nope, afraid i've no idea what type it is, but have had a look inside and no film....
I can find out I suppose, where do I look to find out what type it is? I hear your quite the photographerist! (not sure on wording there... anyway, let's go with that!)

I'm slowly receding back in time. I love it really, pleases me so much more than any modern stuff. Its only people like you that know what i mean.

You speak large amounts of sense

Why thank you! For me the whole retro thing started with Life on Mars, loved the series and from then on just wanted something old as a first car. Couldn't get my hands on a cheap capri mk1 or cortina mk3 so decided on a mk1 mini. 1 year later and the little fella is sitting in the garage being restored - slowly but surely.
Since then i've bought old albums, and older style clothing - which has led to my belief that the chelsea boot with a 2" cuban heel is the perfect shoe for driving - though probably not advised by most

Brownies take 120mm film I've got my Dads first camera, see below. Still need to get around to shooting and developing. Im waiting for a sunny day

http://www.flickr.co...dio/3510105846/

Thanks for the info, i'll check that out now!

And thank you all!

[Matt.P]

This thread and classic camera's instantly made me think of this 1966 British classic film: -











Very surreal and it had a profound influence on Austin Powers.

Taffy, you really are a legend!
You should run for prime minister, i'd vote!
You'd certainly give that fat bloke with a squint a run for his money!

[Bean]

Yes but I love classic British completely bizarre films. I've got them all on DVD.

I have no doubt that it had influence on a hell of a lot of people and it was VERY ahead of its time! - But you've really got to appreciate the type of 'arty farty' film to be able to get in to it, I think!

[taffy1967]

This thread and classic camera's instantly made me think of this 1966 British classic film: -











Very surreal and it had a profound influence on Austin Powers.

Taffy, you really are a legend!
You should run for prime minister, i'd vote!
You'd certainly give that fat bloke with a squint a run for his money!

Yes I'd be the fat bloke without a squint and I'd make all real Minis tax exempt and insist that Britain goes back to the 1960's again.

As for 'Life On Mars', well yes the TV show looked okay. But I'm old enough to remember that everything went wrong around that time as we had nothing but power cuts and industrial action.

Still T-Rex, Slade and Sweet were good, but I still prefer the 60's.

[Down&Out]

I'm slowly receding back in time. I love it really, pleases me so much more than any modern stuff. Its only people like you that know what i mean.

You speak large amounts of sense

Why thank you! For me the whole retro thing started with Life on Mars, loved the series and from then on just wanted something old as a first car. Couldn't get my hands on a cheap capri mk1 or cortina mk3 so decided on a mk1 mini. 1 year later and the little fella is sitting in the garage being restored - slowly but surely.
Since then i've bought old albums, and older style clothing - which has led to my belief that the chelsea boot with a 2" cuban heel is the perfect shoe for driving - though probably not advised by most

Thats the wierdest thing ever, because it was exactly the same for me.

I had the mini and an extensive old music collection already, and then that came on and it was just the best tv series ever. Nothing has been the same since

[taffy1967]

Yes but I love classic British completely bizarre films. I've got them all on DVD.

I have no doubt that it had influence on a hell of a lot of people and it was VERY ahead of its time! - But you've really got to appreciate the type of 'arty farty' film to be able to get in to it, I think!

If you love retro films and stuff, then you'll probably like this film. I think I was about 10 years old when I first watched it and the weird students play acting tennis at the end freaked me out.

Edited by taffy1967, 18 December 2009 - 11:29 PM.

[Matt.P]

Yes I'd be the fat bloke without a squint and I'd make all real Minis tax exempt and insist that Britain goes back to the 1960's again.

As for 'Life On Mars', well yes the TV show looked okay. But I'm old enough to remember that everything went wrong around that time as we had nothing but power cuts and industrial action.

Still T-Rex, Slade and Sweet were good, but I still prefer the 60's.

haha!
Got to admit, as Down and Out says, I think i'm going backwards. After watching the series I got into a lot of 70's stuff, Bowie, slade, T.REX etc, but since buying the Mini, I thought about 60's music, for playing at shows.
So, this introduced me to groups such as the Beatles, the move, the small faces, the kinks, the who, and some of the early Bolan stuff.

So, i've gone from being a 70's kid to being a fan of the 60's - more mod orientated than the later psychadelic period that followed.
So, in my life (beatles reference there) i'm hoping to potter along in my little 850 mini, preferably avoiding modern cars, yeah, I might rely on them from time to time, but I just think classics are far comfier, prettier and classier than their modern counterparts.

And yes, the so called "good old days" certainly had their problems, in the 60's there was the very real threat of a post-apocalyptic world but then, all the more reason to re-ignite the charms of the 60's today, without the impending threat of our premature destruction.

Erm... anyway, back on topic

I was wondering also, If I was to buy a camera similar to the one on the first page or perhaps use my Grandads old Box Brownie, how easy and how costly would it be to develop the film at home - or is it better to leave this to a specialist?

[Dan]

Processing neg is dead easy, it's printing that you need a dark room for. For neg you just need a changing bag, a tank and spools that are the right size for your film, some developer and fixer and a timer. It's easy. Then you move on to printing for which you need all the trays and enlarger and light safes and stuff that you see in images of darkrooms. It's easy to put a dark room together though and I'd imagine that there is tons of stuff available at the moment. Major labs like Joe's Basement have all shut down in the last few years since the press and fashion sectors went digital (which happened more or less overnight when Canon first brought out a reasonable digital SLR) so there is a lot of gear floating about the world. If you have a room with water and a main drain, good ventilation, preferably no windows (blackout screens are easy enough to put together though) and importantly no lightswitch on the outside then you have a darkroom. If your house is on a septic system rather than mains sewerage it's not a good idea.

[davidv]

I have an old retro camera in a leather case where you have to mess about setting it from the late 60s no use to me i want it going to a good home my dad gave it to me i will post its details if someone wants it i will post it to them and they can set a value and post there cash back to me i do not want a top price just fair price on the lower value of a bargain i have bought a new camera

[Down&Out]

I'd say get some pictures up Davidv, and test if it works, and then someone will buy it off you for sure .

[davidv]

How do i post a picture up it is old and a collectors one 35mm film i think only post a message to me we can not do deals here by the rules of the club i will post the make etc its not my subject cameras it is a good one .