33 replies to this topic

[Shifty]

I'll put the idea forward and see what is said.

I know minikid would be up for it and I'm sure some of the other area managers would be too.

[Scallywag630]

I'll put the idea forward and see what is said.

I know minikid would be up for it and I'm sure some of the other area managers would be too.

Glad you agreed with my suggestion. I'm sure the area managers will perform the task admirably and save you work. Just hope you can get this organised soon so we all may see positive results, and you give them the authority to implement their decisions. There is no point if you are just going to say "well, the Team will still have to consider each suggestion". That would defeat the whole point.

Edited by Scallywag630, 14 January 2011 - 10:22 PM.

[Bec]

I don't see what you would gain from having suggestion mods, what are you saying has taken us 6 months to decide upon specifically? What is so difficult about members suggesting things and the current team reading it? We've got this area of tmf dedicated to give people a place to share ideas. If the current team couldn't cope and were overworked we'd already have brought more mods in, making new titles seems a bit of a pointless task when there isn't a need for it.

[Ethel]

Isn't a forum somewhere to discuss other people's ideas? What's up with the bit we're all posting in now?

[Scallywag630]

I don't see what you would gain from having suggestion mods, what are you saying has taken us 6 months to decide upon specifically? What is so difficult about members suggesting things and the current team reading it? We've got this area of tmf dedicated to give people a place to share ideas. If the current team couldn't cope and were overworked we'd already have brought more mods in, making new titles seems a bit of a pointless task when there isn't a need for it.

The simple truth is that a member of staff has said that you guys rarely had time to look at suggestions because of the work load.At the end of last year's "Zero Tolerance" thread, staff members said that a lot of suggestions had been made throughout the thread and would be considered by the team. To date we have heard no feedback from the staff. I'm sure you will agree that members input can be very valuable to TMF, but if this input cannot be considered or actioned because the current staffing levels don't allow it, surely it is reasonable to appoint more staff. Its not as if it will cost TMF anything, and the ideal choice is the Area Managers who are already in place.

Isn't a forum somewhere to discuss other people's ideas? What's up with the bit we're all posting in now?

True, but the members do not have the authority to implement changes. Only admin/mods can do that.

[Bec]

I would ask whoever told you that then to go and look in the staff room then decide if we're not coping

Current staffing levels don't allow it is a load of rubbish.

[Scallywag630]

I would ask whoever told you that then to go and look in the staff room then decide if we're not coping

Current staffing levels don't allow it is a load of rubbish.

I'm glad to hear that you are coping with all the work load and that your colleague is incorrect in his assessment. If everything is being covered by the current staff level, maybe you could tell us all what suggestions have been considered in the last month and what was the outcome of each.

[Bec]

Of all the members on TMF you give the staff the most grief Scallywag, you expect us to work like a professional service and constantly stir up a load of hassle, just looking through this suggestion area and the replies in it highlights it. We welcome suggestions and comments but when there is one member always on our cases it really does get on our wicks, there's no other way to put this politely. You say we can't cope with our workload but you then want to try and increase it by getting us to run round after you.

If we want to share what's in our staffroom we bring it onto the forum.

[Scallywag630]

Of all the members on TMF you give the staff the most grief Scallywag, you expect us to work like a professional service and constantly stir up a load of hassle, just looking through this suggestion area and the replies in it highlights it. We welcome suggestions and comments but when there is one member always on our cases it really does get on our wicks, there's no other way to put this politely. You say we can't cope with our workload but you then want to try and increase it by getting us to run round after you.

If we want to share what's in our staffroom we bring it onto the forum.

Trying to REDUCE your work load is giving you grief? Wanting a better TMF is causing hassle? I made a perfectly reasonable suggestion that would benefit both members and staff, Shifty even agreed and added the suggestion himself of using the area managers. However, it seems that you do not care about what members think or want and yes, I do expect you to do what you say you will (as a team). Is it unreasonable to ask for feedback from the staff on points raised? I think it may get on your wick being asked to be accountable for your actions, but it is not I that seems to be unable to respond to reasonable questions. If you are coping with the worl load, give us some feed back...if not, use the area managers to help you.

[Ethel]

There really aren't clandestine meetings in smoky rooms, most of the staff messages are just to keep one another informed of what's going on so you don't get it in the ear off 3 different mods at the same time. The biggest discussion of late was to sort out the new classifieds so it could be introduced with as few teething problems as possible.

[Deathrow]

This person you keep quoting is me and I just want to set you straight since you seem to want to take everything that is posted by anyone on this board in the most literal fashion.

When I said we rarely get to look at the features suggested, I meant when we were having to clean up MINI moaning threads on the board where people have got out of hand for no reason what so ever, additional to that is having to clean up threads that are then opened because we've closed one thread while we are trying to clean it up. It's like a self fueling fire, once it's lit it's really time consuming to put out.

When everyone is behaving themselves and not giving us work to do, we discuss the forum at length and what it needs. Many times me and Bec have discussed in to the stupid hours of the morning how to drive the forum forward. However, until we make decisions about what is and what isn't going to happen we are not going to publically share them as all it does is get people excited about something that may never come to fruition.

[minimadjonesy]

great, so this thread is going to go the same way as the others in the past few days is it?

Everyone is getting very tired of it and personally (and you note that i am not using red writing as this is not in my role as admin) I think that the current staff are doing a great job. The moderators are doing well at keeping things running and you have no idea how much work the admins do both on TMF and outside of the actual forum to keep this running so you can complain and be at the heart of every controversial thread.

It seems you have taken it upon yourself to crusade against the current staff which is especially surprising as you keep touting for a position on the staff. your behaviour makes this a very slim possibility to be honest.

As for you increasing workload, your posts to propagate the threads that have caused the moderating team most work in the past week have caused so much work for the team it is unbelivable. if we didn't have to deal with threads like this then maybe suggestions would get actioned quicker. As for your current suggestions, the main one you provided recently was to split the Regional Sections down even more. That will not happen as when they were smaller it was a nightmare for it to be looked after. The current sections do not currently work and we are reviewing how this can be resolved but at the moment the upgrade of TMF is taking priority so it'll be looked at when we upgrade along with a number of other suggestions.

Most of the suggestions are totally unworkable which is why they never see the light of day and as for a Suggestion Mod... WHY? we have a large team who are, as I said earlier, doing a great job. and as for a suggestion we took on board.. Take a look at the classified section people hated the "new" classifieds and we took that on and changed back to a slighty changed version of the old section. It works well so saying we don't action suggestions is a down right lie.

Now in my role as an admin any further attacks on staff members wil result in the relevant warnings being dished out. We have too much to do than to constantly deal with unnecessary arguments

[samsfern]

see, now to me, please dont have a go at me for this, as i dont like getting on the wrong side of anyone, but this looks like the admin team are ganging up on scallywag, who i think is just making his opinion heard to all, we all have different ways of expressing our opinions, but then again, i havent read the other threads as to be honest i cant be bothered, so cant really say much.

Edited by samsfern, 15 January 2011 - 07:11 PM.

[minimadjonesy]

if that were the case Samsfern, surely we would hide your comment? my comments are not based on just this thread.

[samsfern]

if that were the case Sam, surely we would hide your comment? my comments are not based on just this thread.

who said im called sam ?