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[garrett3]

Is your car a cooper s?

If its a standard sport then they are something added on by a previous owner

[Alpha Tango]

Is your car a cooper s?

If its a standard sport then they are something added on by a previous owner

It has not been modified by John Cooper Garages as it does not have any of the John Cooper accessories or go-faster parts. I wondered whether Rover ever added any extra badging or extra bits and bobs to late cars (wishful thinking)

[Bobby9779]

My 2000 is definately a cooper sport, V5, silver etc etc.

Mine however has never had a cooper sport badge on the boot!

[l_jonez]

My cooper sport ( on log book, strengthened subframe, koni shocks etc) had a white roof with cream and black interior with a wooden dash

[garrett3]

My cooper sport ( on log book, strengthened subframe, koni shocks etc) had a white roof with cream and black interior with a wooden dash

yeah that sounds right, as they all didnt have silver roofs.

it was just the very late non-500 models that had the silver parts.

[Alpha Tango]

My cooper sport ( on log book, strengthened subframe, koni shocks etc) had a white roof with cream and black interior with a wooden dash

yeah that sounds right, as they all didnt have silver roofs.

That goes against what I thought was correct. I have always believed that all of the limited edition Rover Mini classic Cooper Sports had black/silver leather, alloy turned dash, silver stripes and roof, koni etc etc, this is when they left the factory as over the last 10 yrs anything could have been changed.

[garrett3]

My cooper sport ( on log book, strengthened subframe, koni shocks etc) had a white roof with cream and black interior with a wooden dash

yeah that sounds right, as they all didnt have silver roofs.

That goes against what I thought was correct. I have always believed that all of the limited edition Rover Mini classic Cooper Sports had black/silver leather, alloy turned dash, silver stripes and roof, koni etc etc, this is when they left the factory as over the last 10 yrs anything could have been changed.

Sorry mate, NOT all cooper sports were silver roof models.

The silver roof model was only about at the same time as the LE 500 models.

You can get a 1998 cooper sport with cream roof, black leather with cream piping etc etc

Like this one cream cooper sport

The silver roof sport models with the black/silver seats are identicle to the 500 model in every way except they dont have the badge/plaque and the logbook states sport and not sport 500 le.

The 500 was more popular than rover thought so they cashed in and ran with it and sold extra cars but without the 500 bits. Typical manufacturer.

Some early cooper sports only had half leather seats with a cream fabric centre.

Like this one 1997 cooper sport

Just to add further confusion... A quick and easy way to spot a fake is the amount of dials in the centre of the dash. A cooper with have a clock only but a sport will have three. (obviously depending on the car still having its original dash)

Hope this clears things up

[garrett3]

Here is a "sportspack" and not a "sport"

THIS ONE HERE

Look for the subtle differences I described.

[garrett3]

I just heard a funny scratching noise from my wardrobe... I think its my anorak trying to escape
I have that funny taste in my mouth too, Think I best back away from the keys for a while lol

[Alpha Tango]

I think you may be confusing sportspack with sport, when you say "A cooper will have a clock only but a sport will have three" the 3 clocks were part of the sportspack option and the non sportspack cooper had just 1 clock however the limited edition classic cooper sports had the silver bits and was the same as the 500s but without the high-level break light and the certificate.


You also say "Some early cooper sports only had half leather seats with a cream fabric centre." Again I think you may be confusing sportspack with sport as the early cooper sportspack 1997 on had half leather seats with a cream fabric centre but the limited edition classic cooper sports was only available in 2000 and so there was not an early cooper sports just a sportspack.

[garrett3]

I think you may be confusing sportspack with sport, when you say "A cooper will have a clock only but a sport will have three" the 3 clocks were part of the sportspack option and the non sportspack cooper had just 1 clock however the limited edition classic cooper sports had the silver bits and was the same as the 500s but without the high-level break light and the certificate.


You also say "Some early cooper sports only had half leather seats with a cream fabric centre." Again I think you may be confusing sportspack with sport as the early cooper sportspack 1997 on had half leather seats with a cream fabric centre but the limited edition classic cooper sports was only available in 2000 and so there was not an early cooper sports just a sportspack.

I am talking about a "fake" if you read my post.

Good effort though.

As for an early sport, you are wrong my friend. There is a sport and not a sportpack. They are on the logbook too. (ive owned 2)

Sorry but again good effort

Edited by garrett3, 20 March 2011 - 12:02 PM.

[Alpha Tango]

The 2 you have owned were they the Mini Cooper Sports LE
Year: 1998 (May)
Based on: Mini Cooper
Engine: 1275cc
Exterior colours:
Brooklands Green (HFB - BLVC1265)
Black (PMF - BLVC644)
Roof: White
Exterior trim: Chrome grille and handles; white mirrors
Decals/badges: Twin coachlines with BMC-style rosette with the words "Mini Cooper" to the rear; "V" flash in yellow (similar to British Vita Logo) above the front side indicator; BMC-style rosette with the words "Mini Cooper" on the left hand side of boot lid; white bonnet stripes
Equipment: Two spotlamps, sports suspension pack, 13"x6" Sportspack wheels, Sportspack wheelarches
Interior: Walnut dashboard; dark green leather interior; green carpets; dark green leather and black steering wheel; dark green leather gear change boot and knob
Production: 100 (50 of each colour)
Built to commemorate the 30th anniversary of the Cooper's victory in four Saloon Car Championship races in 1968.

If the 2 you have owned were not this marque I wondered do common standard sportspack Coopers have Sport on the V5.

I think the confusion on my part is my own Mini, to give it it's correct title, it is a Rover Mini Classic Cooper Sport LE, BRG/silver the same spec as the 500s.
What is the way to tell the difference between other common Coopers and the silver roof ones ? is it the Classic part of its title.