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#16 monster_mini

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Posted 28 June 2011 - 09:39 AM

okay thankyou :D

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Posted 28 June 2011 - 09:40 AM

one last thing...


would it be worth building an enclosure on the back of the dash so the components would be in sealed pods?

if so what size should they be ?

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Posted 28 June 2011 - 09:56 AM

one last thing...


would it be worth building an enclosure on the back of the dash so the components would be in sealed pods?

if so what size should they be ?

thanks


Not unless you have toi.

Component speakers are designed to work in Very big air space (‘normal’ car doors etc) so pods should only be used if you HAVE to. i.e to mount them under the lower dash rail on the kick panels.
Small enclosure size will strangled them, I had to do loads of work on mine to get them big enough.

If you using 6.5" I don’t know if there will fit in a wood dash, 4” or at a push 5” will fit.
If you are going to make pods, mount them on ‘feet’ at least 15/20mm away from the kick panels and have the backs about 3/4 open.

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Posted 28 June 2011 - 10:19 AM

okay :D thanks for the awesome advice throughout all this :D will keep it updated ( hopefully with pictures soon ) so you can tell me when i go wrong again :L:)

thanks again

Nick

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Posted 28 June 2011 - 06:21 PM

Hey Nick why not start a built thread in the ICE Builds Projects Area section and keep it updated. You could put a link in your signiature for people to go to.

Edited by Brams96, 28 June 2011 - 06:22 PM.


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Posted 01 July 2011 - 07:19 AM

humm maybe :!: might do if it starts going to plan !! :!:

on the idea of the rca splitters-

so if i had two of these......- http://www.trademe.c...n-388212267.htm

i just plug each one into the back of the radio, in 1 of the 2 points where i'd normally plug the normal rca cable in, and thats it?? and then i just plug the rca cables going to the amp in the other end of these cables??

surely it can't be that easy :L ? is there any negative effects of doing this? and if not, why are rca's 2 cables not one, if they'll work off just one (initially)((if that makes any sense?))

thanks

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Posted 01 July 2011 - 08:33 AM

humm maybe :!: might do if it starts going to plan !! :!:

on the idea of the rca splitters-

so if i had two of these......- http://www.trademe.c...n-388212267.htm

i just plug each one into the back of the radio, in 1 of the 2 points where i'd normally plug the normal rca cable in, and thats it?? and then i just plug the rca cables going to the amp in the other end of these cables??

surely it can't be that easy :L ? is there any negative effects of doing this? and if not, why are rca's 2 cables not one, if they'll work off just one (initially)((if that makes any sense?))

thanks

Nick


Yes it just that easy, LOL Stop trying to over complicate the simple things in your head :!:

There is a neagtive to do with load (Ohms) but 1 split on an RCA feed is fine, i would not do more than one though.

Why don they do it as standard... obvious isnt it.... COST!

Cheap headunit less features. might only cost them 50p but thats 50p profit for every unit sold.... in the 100,000's that a lot of cash.

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Posted 01 July 2011 - 09:12 AM

ok thank you :!:

nah that's not what i mean but never mind :!:

thanks for the help again :!:

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Posted 01 July 2011 - 10:09 AM

ok thank you :!:

nah that's not what i mean but never mind :!:

thanks for the help again :!:


what did you mean?

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Posted 01 July 2011 - 10:16 AM

RCA's are two cables because each one (color) carries a different channel of the stereo musical input. The white is usually the left channel, and right is white. If you're running a sub, you can sometimes get away with using just one channel, but high quality musical recordings quite often have different bass level information on each channel, so you would have two RCA's into the amp, and then bridge the output into one sub.
Where RCA's can be split is when you are powering more than one amplifier, then you would split the white channel, one to each amp, and the red channel, also one to each amp. Then you reduce the total power that each individual amplifier receives, but the RCA is more of an information source than a power supply, in terms of how much the signal is amplified from the RCA level to the speaker output of the amplifier.

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Posted 01 July 2011 - 10:31 AM

Then you reduce the total power that each individual amplifier receives, but the RCA is more of an information source than a power supply, in terms of how much the signal is amplified from the RCA level to the speaker output of the amplifier.


Sorry that's not correct...

The 'power' does not decrease (well is does VERY VERY slightly), the LOAD on the source units RCA output increases.


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Edited by Ruckus, 01 July 2011 - 10:50 AM.


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Posted 01 July 2011 - 10:39 AM

basically i was just wondering,

a normal rca cable is basically 2 cables wrapped next to each other?

soo when you use a splitter, if it works with only recieveing information from one of the 2 parts, why does this not have a negative effect?

and more to the point, if it does actually work from only recieveing info from one cable, why are they made with 2 in the first place ??

i really hope that makes some sense :!: im terrible at explaining things like this :!:

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Posted 01 July 2011 - 10:43 AM

basically i was just wondering,

a normal rca cable is basically 2 cables wrapped next to each other?

soo when you use a splitter, if it works with only recieveing information from one of the 2 parts, why does this not have a negative effect?

and more to the point, if it does actually work from only recieveing info from one cable, why are they made with 2 in the first place ??

i really hope that makes some sense :!: im terrible at explaining things like this :!:


LOL, you have this way mixed up in you head mate :!:

You need two Y splitters… one for the Left and one for the Right.

You cannot take and feed from just one RCA (say the left/white one) and get a stereo signal! All you will end up with is Two RCA’s with the same left signal.

Make sense now ?

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Posted 01 July 2011 - 10:48 AM

oops

Edited by Ruckus, 01 July 2011 - 10:50 AM.


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Posted 02 July 2011 - 06:50 AM

haha nooo, i understand that :P

its a really pointless question im trying to ask really but i ment, the rca splitter makes it go from one cable to 2, so what i mean is if enough signal is transfered into just one cable(before its split into two again) why does it go to two atall :) ?

so why is an rca cable, 2 cables instead of just one single:) ?




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