34 replies to this topic

[Sam14]

Ahh they at least cant be as bad at toyota with there recalls...

Water pumps
Brakes not working
Clutch not working
Accelarator pedal getting stuck
Red spiders in all the pipe works
Wrong oil
Oil leaks in the avensis.

List goes on...

[CLM]

It could be worse, they could of lapped the floor panels the wrong way allowing water into the footwell

Or wrapped the floor around the outside and put the vents on the inside... So the water could escape... to the floorboards...

Chris

[M J W J]

Ahh they at least cant be as bad at toyota with there recalls...

Water pumps
Brakes not working
Clutch not working
Accelarator pedal getting stuck
Red spiders in all the pipe works
Wrong oil
Oil leaks in the avensis.

List goes on...

There was nothing wrong with the accelerator. It was where the floor mats were placed that could cause them to jam. If someone puts there floor mat in a place where the accelerator can jam then that is there fault. It is a bad design though that the floor mat can interfere with the accelerator pedal. This problem was driven by the media. Toyota did a recall just to make it look like they were doing something.

The driver of the car that ended up killing 4 people was an ex police officer. Just because of this everybody assumed it was not his fault. The police make mistakes just like everybody else. If he had thought to turn the ignition off the engine would have stopped. He could have taken the car out of gear, put the clutch in or simply applied the foot and/or hand brake to stop the car. Most cars have about 10x the stopping power compared to the engine.

[Monstrous]

Isn't it funny how because there's a problem with a MINI everyones quick to jump on the MINI-bashing bandwagon. If it was any other modern car with the same fault no one would batter and eyelid.

Isn't it about time everyone realised the new MINI is actually a different car to our classics. My mum's MINI had to go in to BMW last year as a petrol line had split as a result of it rubbing against an electrical connector. Thank god she noticed the smell of petrol or it could have been fatal.

[miniman retford]

Ahh they at least cant be as bad at toyota with there recalls...

Water pumps
Brakes not working
Clutch not working
Accelarator pedal getting stuck
Red spiders in all the pipe works
Wrong oil
Oil leaks in the avensis.

List goes on...

I work at a Toyota dealership & a lot of those recalls were made worse by the media, had people phoning up complaining of the symptoms even though their cars were not even the ones affected !
Must admit though we did fit a few avenis engine, most customers were happy getting a new engine for their 3 or 4 year old car.

Edited by miniman retford, 18 January 2012 - 04:34 PM.

[mab01uk]

Ahh they at least cant be as bad at toyota with there recalls...

Water pumps
Brakes not working
Clutch not working
Accelarator pedal getting stuck
Red spiders in all the pipe works
Wrong oil
Oil leaks in the avensis.

List goes on...

There was nothing wrong with the accelerator. It was where the floor mats were placed that could cause them to jam. If someone puts there floor mat in a place where the accelerator can jam then that is there fault. It is a bad design though that the floor mat can interfere with the accelerator pedal. This problem was driven by the media. Toyota did a recall just to make it look like they were doing something.

The driver of the car that ended up killing 4 people was an ex police officer. Just because of this everybody assumed it was not his fault. The police make mistakes just like everybody else. If he had thought to turn the ignition off the engine would have stopped. He could have taken the car out of gear, put the clutch in or simply applied the foot and/or hand brake to stop the car. Most cars have about 10x the stopping power compared to the engine.

More than just the floor mats according to Toyota website...............

Toyota Answers Customer Questions About The Solution For Sticking Accelerator Pedals
What is the solution Toyota announced to fix sticking accelerator pedals?

1. Toyota’s engineers have developed and rigorously tested a solution that is both effective and simple.
A precision-cut steel reinforcement bar will be installed into the accelerator pedal assembly, thereby eliminating the excess friction that has caused pedals to stick in rare instances.

2. What is the problem that could cause accelerators to stick and led to the recall?
The issue involves a friction device in the pedal designed to provide the proper “feel” by adding resistance and making the pedal steady and stable. This friction device includes a “shoe” that rubs against an adjoining surface during normal pedal operation. Due to the materials used, wear and environmental conditions, these surfaces may, over time, begin to stick and release instead of operating smoothly. In some cases, friction could increase to a point that the pedal is slow to return to the idle position or, in rare cases, the pedal sticks, leaving the throttle partially open.

3. How does a steel reinforcement bar solve this problem?
The steel reinforcement bar will reduce the surface tension between the friction shoe and the adjoining surface. With this reinforcement in place, the excess friction that can cause the pedal to stick is eliminated.

More:
http://www.toyota.co...call/pedal.html


Toyota walk-through on what work may be carried out on accelerator pedals affected by the recall on 8m vehicles worldwide and 180,000 models in the UK

Edited by mab01uk, 18 January 2012 - 07:37 PM.

[nev_payne]

Meanwhile, in the spectator seats....

[R1minimagic]

Could be worse, the fuel cap could start sparking when you take it off.........oh come to think of it, they did do that when they first came out!!

[mab01uk]

Could be worse, the fuel cap could start sparking when you take it off.........oh come to think of it, they did do that when they first came out!!

Yes........but don't forget the Mk1 New MINI was designed and developed by Rover engineers at Gaydon, BMW only provided them the cash to do it !!

New MINI: more cool Britannia than BMW will admit?
A Former engineer is furious at BMW’s claims that Rover had no involvement in the New Mini. It was, he claims, a very British affair.
More:
http://www.theminifo...ost__p__1297947

Edited by mab01uk, 18 January 2012 - 08:23 PM.

[AVV IT]

Yes........but don't forget the Mk1 New MINI was designed and developed by Rover engineers at Gaydon, BMW only provided them the cash to do it !!

A Rover poor design!!! .... Surely not!!.... That's just unthinkable!!

[Sam14]

Ahh they at least cant be as bad at toyota with there recalls...

Water pumps
Brakes not working
Clutch not working
Accelarator pedal getting stuck
Red spiders in all the pipe works
Wrong oil
Oil leaks in the avensis.

List goes on...

I work at a Toyota dealership & a lot of those recalls were made worse by the media, had people phoning up complaining of the symptoms even though their cars were not even the ones affected !
Must admit though we did fit a few avenis engine, most customers were happy getting a new engine for their 3 or 4 year old car.

As your actually from Toyota i can respect that and i understand it was blown up by the media but it was a little joke in itself.

Was it red spiders in the pipes or something? or was i thinking of another manufacture?

[miniman retford]

Ahh they at least cant be as bad at toyota with there recalls...

Water pumps
Brakes not working
Clutch not working
Accelarator pedal getting stuck
Red spiders in all the pipe works
Wrong oil
Oil leaks in the avensis.

List goes on...

I work at a Toyota dealership & a lot of those recalls were made worse by the media, had people phoning up complaining of the symptoms even though their cars were not even the ones affected !
Must admit though we did fit a few avenis engine, most customers were happy getting a new engine for their 3 or 4 year old car.

As your actually from Toyota i can respect that and i understand it was blown up by the media but it was a little joke in itself.

Was it red spiders in the pipes or something? or was i thinking of another manufacture?

I dont remember seeing any red spiders

To put you straight though, I'm not from Toyota ! i am parts manager at a dealership & i would never own one (so boring) i have my mini & a ford focus

[thebullet]

The other issue relates to the electric power steering pump melting a piece of wiring (happened to the wife's car), also occurring mainly while parked. In some cases this has caused fires too.

Happened to my mums car in away, didn't catch fire but the power steering would just fail at times leaving it so difficult to steer and it was dangerous when it cut out round a roundabout then all of a sudden kicked and she nearly hit the inside of the roundabout.

[mab01uk]

The other issue relates to the electric power steering pump melting a piece of wiring (happened to the wife's car), also occurring mainly while parked. In some cases this has caused fires too.

Happened to my mums car in away, didn't catch fire but the power steering would just fail at times leaving it so difficult to steer and it was dangerous when it cut out round a roundabout then all of a sudden kicked and she nearly hit the inside of the roundabout.

The original Mk1 (2001-2006) Mk1 MINI 'electro-hydraulic power steering pump' with the distictive whine was specified by Rover engineers because it gives excellent direct steering feel for the 'Go-Kart' character they wished to retain from the classic Mini as far as possible. The fully electric power steering now used on the Mk2 MINI was not so advanced in 2001 when the Mk1 was developed and did not give the required 'sporting feel' and feedback required by Rover at the time.
If yours does fail it is a fairly easy DIY job to replace the EHPS pump, detailed in MCR forum link below:
http://forum.minicoo...read.php?t=9626

Edited by mab01uk, 19 January 2012 - 01:00 PM.

[Mini_Magic]

Isn't it funny how because there's a problem with a MINI everyones quick to jump on the MINI-bashing bandwagon. If it was any other modern car with the same fault no one would batter and eyelid.

Isn't it about time everyone realised the new MINI is actually a different car to our classics. My mum's MINI had to go in to BMW last year as a petrol line had split as a result of it rubbing against an electrical connector. Thank god she noticed the smell of petrol or it could have been fatal.

Reposted because every classic Mini owner needs to read this.

Seriously, get over it! It's been out for over 10 years for goodness sake!