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#1 luvlygal

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 03:49 PM

Hi all, long time no see!

For those of you that remember me and don't know, I've had a miniluvlygal since coming on here last :D For those of you who don't know me, Hello!

Anyway, looking to put Ernie back on the road as he was taken off in November due to said baby coming along and moving house.

Just went and tried her car seat in him and it's a really bad fit. For those of you that take your babies in your Mini, what car seat do you use?

Miniluvlygal is in a rear facing seat as she's only 3 months old.

Any help would be fab.

Thanks folks x

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 10:36 PM

Anyone?!

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 11:19 PM

I used to take my daughter out in the front of my Marina when she was a few months old, her car seat was a rear facing one too but I can't remember what make it was as it was over 8 years ago now. All I could suggest really is take the car to the shop and try different seats until you are happy with one that has a snug fit plus the staff at the shop may have better knowladge on what seat to offer you that suits the car the best.

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 11:25 PM

Yeah agree with pug.....Mothercare are good for that

We couldnt find a good one that we were happy with, biggest problem was the ones that did fit well the seatbelt wasnt long enough to go round, so we waited till she could have a forward seated one before we let her in

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 11:38 PM

Britax eclipse

http://www.kiddisave...-Seat-Max-2012/

Its for cars with limited space, I also know people who have the reccaro one as well.

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 12:22 AM

personally i wouldnt want my children in a mini when they are little. unless i strengthened the car to survive an impact.

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 12:22 AM

personally i wouldnt want my children in a mini when they are little. unless i strengthened the car to survive an impact.

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 07:18 PM

Thanks for the replies.

I'll take a look at that one Shifty, cheers :-)

Josh - I've had this conversation with many other people and I refuse to have it again ;D Each to their own and all that.

Edited by luvlygal, 25 March 2012 - 07:19 PM.


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Posted 25 March 2012 - 07:45 PM

I have 18 years experience of driving, 14 years of that have been on a professional capacity, HGV's, Coaches/ Buses and chauffeur cars and never had an accident so I can't see why a mini is unsafe for babies!

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 08:48 PM

I have 18 years experience of driving, 14 years of that have been on a professional capacity, HGV's, Coaches/ Buses and chauffeur cars and never had an accident so I can't see why a mini is unsafe for babies!

i believe myself to be a good driver. but that didnt stop the jerk crashing into me did it?

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 08:59 PM

There are plenty of knobs out there Josh but it doesn't make the mini an unsafe car bud.

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 09:00 PM

A car is only as safe as it's driver and those around on the road

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 09:02 PM

personally i wouldnt want my children in a mini when they are little. unless i strengthened the car to survive an impact.


I can't see why a mini is unsafe for babies!


In terms of the "is it safe to put babies/small children in a classic mini?" question. I really don't think that there is a straight forward answer to that question, because it really is almost impossible to define any car as "safe".

The classic mini certainly doesn't have the same air bag, crumple zone or side impact protection that modern cars do. To be fair, apart from the improvements made to the late MPi models, the classic mini design virtually pre-dates the incorporation of crash safety in automotive design completely. To my knowledge it has never been NCAP crash tested/rated either, so it's really very difficult to definitively say just how safe, or unsafe it actually is by comparison to other cars. That said in all the pre NCAP crash tests that were performed on the classic mini, it did actually seem to stand up surprisingly well, particularly for such a small car with so little in the way of designed in safety features.

So if you were looking to buy a car to specifically to transport your young family around in, with the highest level of safety available, then a classic mini certainly wouldn't be a particularly good choice. But then I really don't think that means that the classic mini should necessarily be a no child zone either. If you think that the classic mini is that unsafe, then to be fair you probably shouldn't be putting yourself at risk as an adult occupant in one either. You would probably be far better suited to a modern 5 star NCAP rated Toyota Corrolla Verso, or Renault Modus Expression instead.

As someone who sees death and serious injury on a regular basis due to my line of work, I'm probably a more safety paranoid parent than most. But even I would still deem my classic mini as a "safe enough" form of transport to move my two small children around in. Also strengthening a car really only makes the car survive the impact, not necessarily the occupants. In the vast majority of road collisions, people tend to die and receive the most serious injuries from the effects of rapid deceleration, not from the physical damage caused to the car itself.

i believe myself to be a good driver. but that didnt stop the jerk crashing into me did it?


Puggered also raises a good point, in that good standards of driving probably play an as important, if not more important part in road safety, than vehicle design does. I'm an advanced driver and my additional skills in observation, anticipation and planning mean that not only am I less likely to cause an accident, I'm also far more likely to be able to avoid people crashing into me than the average drivers is. It also means that I'm more likely to take action to minimise the severity of those accidents that I am involved in, but are unable to avoid completely.

Edited by AVV IT, 25 March 2012 - 09:10 PM.


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Posted 25 March 2012 - 09:03 PM

have you ever felt how strong a door is? if someone hits your door thats gonna cause trouble for whoever is in the front. i think a mini is an unsafe car in a crash.

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 09:20 PM

The Mini is an unsafe car...relative to a modern car. Funnily enough a MY2000 5* crash tested car is unsafe compared to MY2010 3* crash tested car. The 2010 car will destroy the 2000 car for reasons involving the advancement of collision technology. So should everyone with a kid drive around in brand new cars otherwise we're putting our children in danger? We can't afford that. So really it's a moot point.

Then again you make a good point Josh. Just because you've never been in an accident doesn't mean the car is safe. That's like these idiots that angle grind their springs and then deny it's unsafe because their mate who's done it has never had an accident. That said, as long as the car is solid, it won't crumple into the occupants as easily as people think, not at town driving speeds unless it's a head on with no braking involved.

Re the door Josh, you Jack a Mini up, it stays as it is. You Jack our Saab 9000 and many modern cars up on a corner, it will flex and twist. So is the 9k less safe? Rigidity and strength are only a small fraction of the equation. What you want to care about is how the area dissipates the energy around the shell away from the driver. Hence modern cars look like a mess after a relatively small bump. But I get what you're saying.

Either way, we know the risks, it's a no-answer argument that just goes around in circles because it's down to personal opinion as to whether there is a risk and if it's worth it. Perhaps children shouldn't go in cars because of the risk. Perhaps adults shouldn't. Perhaps no one should cross a road. Perhaps everyone should just stay at home. Perhaps every car over 2 years old should be outlawed. It's endless.

No one asked if it was safe to carry a child in a Mini, so let's not discuss it and stick to the topic please.




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