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#31 Tamworthbay

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 04:19 PM


The holes are already there, which is why I had the idea at first.


Follow the link , if you haven't, the post '88 LHD's have a torsion bar & the master still on the right.

With you now! The picture doesn't come up as I am on an iPad. Will have a look on laptop later. Thanks

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 12:26 PM

Is there such a thing as a one way valve which has a small enough bore for brake pipe fitment? Or could one be manufactured to suit this purpose, this way you could have one either side of the tee piece and you could run dual master cylinders as you plan. I have seen two master cylinders running on seperate lines, for the same pedal with much success, not that this will help you in the slightest though!

find a local hydraulic supplier . You Will need to check max pressure and the pressure that makes the check valve operate, but possible. You need to think about fail safe tho. As if the check valve fails, driver and instructor loose brakes.
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I Dont think this Will work as the fluid May not return to the master cylinder. Maybe if the cracking pressure is high enough on the check valve this Will allow fluid to return from brakes but not at high pressure from dual master cylinders.

Edited by jd24-7, 11 November 2012 - 12:32 PM.


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Posted 11 November 2012 - 03:23 PM

As I already explained, this can not work.

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 03:28 PM

thought about it some more, and the way i think i would attack this is with a servo brake set up and a bit of engineering with the left hand drive pedal set up.

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 07:52 PM

You can get an universal dual control setup -

http://www.dualcontr...co.uk/page6.htm

http://www.he-mandua...general-faq.pdf

I have seen very simple ones with a lever & bracket welded to a torsion rod , in a tube connected to a pedal box

but can't find any pic's

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 08:01 PM


You can get an universal dual control setup -

http://www.dualcontrolsleeds.co.uk/page6.htm

http://www.he-mandualcontrols.co.uk/heman-general-faq.pdf

I have seen very simple ones with a lever & bracket welded to a torsion rod , in a tube connected to a pedal box

but can't find any pic's

Thanks! The ADI one from Leeds looks perfect. They are a company I haven't come across so will give them a call tomorrow.

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 08:06 PM

Google is fantastic - if you know what to ask it

I have a feeling it's going to be £xpensive

I personally would sit & wait on ebay - there were loads of learner mini's in the 60's 70's 80's 90's - maybe not all dual control - but a lot

wishing you luck

ps - you could offer them free ad's on your cars - for a discount

and more info - a bit clearer ...

http://www.dualbrake.com/instafat.html

Edited by sledgehammer, 11 November 2012 - 08:11 PM.


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Posted 11 November 2012 - 08:19 PM


Google is fantastic - if you know what to ask it

I have a feeling it's going to be £xpensive

I personally would sit & wait on ebay - there were loads of learner mini's in the 60's 70's 80's 90's - maybe not all dual control - but a lot

wishing you luck

ps - you could offer them free ad's on your cars - for a discount

and more info - a bit clearer ...

http://www.dualbrake.com/instafat.html

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 09:45 PM

It makes a huge difference to the lives of the kids involved. It has been genuinely life changing for several of them over the years


I quite belive it,
loving what your doing here, i've read some of your posts before but i didn't realise your set up. i wish there was this sort of thing around when i was at school and i know a lot of other people who would of benifited from it as well

Im based in somerset but if theres anything i can do just let me know,
unfortunatly i'm not too hot on dual controls tho sorry :shy:

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 04:56 PM





It makes a huge difference to the lives of the kids involved. It has been genuinely life changing for several of them over the years


I quite belive it,
loving what your doing here, i've read some of your posts before but i didn't realise your set up. i wish there was this sort of thing around when i was at school and i know a lot of other people who would of benifited from it as well

Im based in somerset but if theres anything i can do just let me know,
unfortunatly i'm not too hot on dual controls tho sorry :shy:

Trac

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