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#16 iToNiiCz

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Posted 04 October 2013 - 10:09 AM

hi here are some photos of the panels for one side ,still waiting for one panel which is for inner sill with jacking points etc

 

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Posted 04 October 2013 - 03:15 PM

I hate to say it but the inner sill is no good bordering on dangerous also the same for outer sill it's an oversill designed as a cheap get you through the mot bodge and you may well find the door step really won't fit

Hate to be the barer of bad news

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Posted 04 October 2013 - 03:25 PM

Like darren says the inner sill is no good really, I'm pretty sure it's because of the cut out in the middle. You could cut that bit out, then make a new peice that can  welded in. The oversill can be cut in a half to acheive a normal sill. and the door step may or may not fit very well, mainly the width of the steps pressed into them, I think.



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Posted 04 October 2013 - 04:35 PM

i need these parts where do you suggest i get them from 



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Posted 04 October 2013 - 06:41 PM

M Machine are surposed to be very good, even though they are not geniune.



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Posted 04 October 2013 - 07:02 PM

I really think you need to read through some of the welding heavy projects before you attempt anything, as those panels aren't amazing, and you need bracing in! As above, you'll need to cut down the oversill so it is shorter, nearly half the size. Reason being a wide sill is a bigger box section, and isn't as strong as a standard sill. And because it also tramps moisture, usually rotting out within a few years at the bottom of it.

As also said above, the inner sill repair is rubbish. It is most likely piss thin metal, and it is meant as an MOT bodge. I suggest you get an M machine inner sill repair panel. They are of Brilliant quality, and are much stronger, being thicker metal.

But this is just my advice.

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Posted 04 October 2013 - 07:57 PM

Guys above have covered it pretty well mate sorry to say.

 

Also another big fan of M-Machine panels.

 

If you spend a fiver and become a TMF+ member you will also get a discount from them.

 

Your going to need it ;o)



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Posted 05 October 2013 - 08:56 AM

Yeah, don't panic though :)

We've all been here. It helps if you can see just how the sill structure is supposed to be constructed so have a good dig around the forum to see what others have been up to.

Depends just how tight your budget is really but you could keep the over sill and cut it down along its length to make an acceptable 'proper' sill.

But you might consider going for one of these sections to save some time and agro - download the m-machine catalogue http://www.m-machine.co.uk/cat.pdf

 and look on page 22, there's a couple of options there depending on how rotten your floor pans are which have the outer and inner sills plus jacking points all ready to go. I think other manufacturers do similar parts but somerford seem to be out of stock at the mo. M-machine parts are generally a pretty good fit.

 

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Posted 06 October 2013 - 03:16 PM

do you think the floor panel bit i`ve got is going to be ok or do you think i should get another. what do you think of this web site www.somerfordmini.co.uk



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Posted 06 October 2013 - 03:21 PM

The floor peice should be fine, You don't have to use all of it if you don't need to. have a look on the gradual resto of out ritz part 2 (page 4) to see what I've done with that floor.

 

Somerfords mini is very good.


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Posted 06 October 2013 - 03:23 PM

Somerfords are Heritage and so will carry a higher price. You can get everything you need from M Machine and is where I yet a lot of my repair panels from. I will be getting a big batch of panels from them plus Minispeed ( Heritage panels as you get 12.5% discount from them.

You seriously need to get some bracing in there so please do not move the car at all or you could potentially end up with some serious issues.

Have a look at Wills Mini Special under mini saloon rebuild for the bracing you may need.

http://www.theminifo...s-mini-special/

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Posted 16 October 2013 - 04:22 PM

i have not being doing much on my mini ,been waiting for this part

 

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do i need to weld the outer sill on top of this panel thanks

 

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Edited by iToNiiCz, 17 October 2013 - 09:05 AM.


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Posted 16 October 2013 - 04:30 PM

Nope, the black panel doesn't look like it's needed, the floor panel looks to have the sill already attached with the jacking point on it too. Have you got a closer picture?



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Posted 16 October 2013 - 08:15 PM

Use that black panel for practicing your welding on as that's about the only thing it's good for fella.

The grey panel you have is the outer sill already attached to the floor.

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Posted 16 October 2013 - 08:31 PM

Right trying to do this from my phone so bare with me.

This is the floor pan or footwell.but you will need one for the drivers side as that ones for the passenger. 
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Which will need to be going in this hole
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This is the inner / outer sill to 1st groove

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Which will need to run from front to back of the car
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Offer the panels to the car and you should see where everything goes. You next tricky task will be deciding which panels to cut to weld them all together.

Hope that kind of helps as its a bit hard to describe in words.


Edited by SAL 821X, 16 October 2013 - 08:40 PM.






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