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#16 Cooperman

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Posted 04 December 2013 - 10:19 PM

It keeps on happening and will continue to do so.

I guess other classics have the same issues, maybe the VW Beetle for example.



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Posted 04 December 2013 - 11:50 PM

It keeps on happening and will continue to do so.

I guess other classics have the same issues, maybe the VW Beetle for example.

 

Other classics that get 'Re-Vinned' (as they call imported late classic Mini's on old V5's on USA Mini forums) for tax exemption purposes include several classic cars that did not change significantly across the 1972 (now 1973) cut off dates......eg. Land Rovers, (seen a few 1958 landrovers which have been fully uprated to be like a 1998 Defender with 300 tdi engine and coil springs...... :lol:

also early shape Range Rovers, later MGB's/GTs and 1974-80 MG Midget 1500's with chrome bumper conversion kits (lots of 1500cc Triumph engined versions have the earlier pre-72 A-Series engined V5's) and also Triumph Spitfires....

 

Tax exempt' 1971 Defender 90 200Tdi

http://forum.landrov...ender-90-200Tdi

 

Triumph Spitfire Chassis/ tax exempt V5

http://www.ebay.co.u...=item51b5bcdf35

 

MG midget v5 tax exempt, with chassis plate

http://www.ebay.co.u...=p2047675.l2557


Edited by mab01uk, 04 December 2013 - 11:59 PM.


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Posted 05 December 2013 - 01:21 AM

I think we've got well over arguing over these, but it's still worth flagging up the issues so new comers to Minis don't unwittingly pick up a can of worms. The advert seems honest enough, if you want to take on the risks. My only gripe would be if other  Minis with flip fronts got dragged into conflict with the dvla over the tax dodging.



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Posted 05 December 2013 - 07:47 AM

I am not sure anyone has ever seen real evidence of a car being crushed by order of the DVLA although it is often mentioned in threads like these........?



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Posted 05 December 2013 - 11:00 AM

I am not sure anyone has ever seen real evidence of a car being crushed by order of the DVLA although it is often mentioned in threads like these........?

 

you would think the very worse case would be that it would have to registered on a q plate or something (assuming it is roadworthy) rather than being sent to the crushers?!



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Posted 05 December 2013 - 11:49 AM

 

you would think the very worse case would be that it would have to registered on a q plate or something (assuming it is roadworthy) rather than being sent to the crushers?!

 

 

I agree much more likely to make you IVA it, it's not just a question of them giving you a Q reg.

 

That's the problem though, trying to take a car designed in the fifties and make it pass a test devised recently, it is possible as some of the Zcars boys have done it, but it requires a huge amount of work and some quite fundemental changes for it to happen.

 

And another thing just applying for the test is £450, you could easily spend a grand plus even if you did everything yourself

 

Cheers

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Posted 05 December 2013 - 01:35 PM

 

 

you would think the very worse case would be that it would have to registered on a q plate or something (assuming it is roadworthy) rather than being sent to the crushers?!

 

 

I agree much more likely to make you IVA it, it's not just a question of them giving you a Q reg.

 

That's the problem though, trying to take a car designed in the fifties and make it pass a test devised recently, it is possible as some of the Zcars boys have done it, but it requires a huge amount of work and some quite fundemental changes for it to happen.

 

And another thing just applying for the test is £450, you could easily spend a grand plus even if you did everything yourself

 

Cheers

David 

 

 

but do you think they would make you do the IVA if you have an unmodified chassis, even if it had been incorrectly registered?

I have no idea about these things by the way! just always question the "dvla would crush it" line



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Posted 05 December 2013 - 02:00 PM

Years and years ago, that certainly used to happen to cars that were of questionable age they were just issued with a Q reg.

 

If you have a newer chassis/bodyshell then it is modified and would of thought an IVA would be required

 

David 


Edited by R1mini, 05 December 2013 - 02:04 PM.


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Posted 05 December 2013 - 02:22 PM

''I bought it originally to replace my 1993 1275 Mini as a winter project''

 

What he's done there is spent years building his 1993 Mini and then finished it, and bought the v5 for a 1961 Mini and slapped it on :P 

 

If he legally owns both and neither are stolen which clearly they aren't seeing as he owns them, although illegal it's more 'naughty' than anything. You would hope anybody buying a 1380 Mini handing over a considerable amount of money for a classic car knows enough about it to know that they're not getting a 1961 Mini, and I'm sure they will.

 

Seems a nice enough little car






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