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#16 Icey

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Posted 23 March 2014 - 08:56 PM

unless it was a 1275 but that sh*ts exspensive lol

 

As has been said, if going from a 998 to a 1275 seems expensive - you ain't seen nothin' yet.

 

Ok, so yes you can get, say, an Ecotec Vauxhall engine for less than a £100 if you look in the right places but you can add another 0 to that for doing the conversion (depending on your own abilities).

 

Suddenly a 1275 looks like a bargain....



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Posted 23 March 2014 - 08:58 PM

 

unless it was a 1275 but that sh*ts exspensive lol

 

As has been said, if going from a 998 to a 1275 seems expensive - you ain't seen nothin' yet.

 

Ok, so yes you can get, say, an Ecotec Vauxhall engine for less than a £100 if you look in the right places but you can add another 0 to that for doing the conversion (depending on your own abilities).

 

Suddenly a 1275 looks like a bargain....

 

0?



#18 Carlos W

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Posted 23 March 2014 - 08:59 PM

 

 

unless it was a 1275 but that sh*ts exspensive lol

 

As has been said, if going from a 998 to a 1275 seems expensive - you ain't seen nothin' yet.

 

Ok, so yes you can get, say, an Ecotec Vauxhall engine for less than a £100 if you look in the right places but you can add another 0 to that for doing the conversion (depending on your own abilities).

 

Suddenly a 1275 looks like a bargain....

 

0?

 

£100 and a 0 makes £1000



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Posted 23 March 2014 - 09:00 PM

 

 

 

unless it was a 1275 but that sh*ts exspensive lol

 

As has been said, if going from a 998 to a 1275 seems expensive - you ain't seen nothin' yet.

 

Ok, so yes you can get, say, an Ecotec Vauxhall engine for less than a £100 if you look in the right places but you can add another 0 to that for doing the conversion (depending on your own abilities).

 

Suddenly a 1275 looks like a bargain....

 

0?

 

£100 and a 0 makes £1000

 

ohhhh.. blonde moment :\



#20 cradley-heathen

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Posted 23 March 2014 - 09:21 PM

i agree with others, keeping the A series would be your best bet, i know some people try to sell used 1275 engines for £500 plus, but i would hold out for one closer to £350. however you want to see it run!

 

i have worked on quite a few engine conversion with friends and its a huge job with all things considered, and this is coming from someone who makes a living cutting/welding/making things.

 

but even when the engine is mounted in your own subframe, you still have to make shafts, gear linkage, mate the exhaust up, cooling system, and sometimes the electrics alone can be a nightmare. i pulled the entire loom from a rover 200 that we took a 1.8vvc from, i unpicked the entire thing, referred to wiring diagrams and spliced the required parts into the mini loom, it took about 3 days in the end, and allot of head scratching! but it did fire up more or less first time!



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Posted 24 March 2014 - 09:06 AM

you do realise im not going to read all of your comments im probs going to end up with a 1275



#22 Carlos W

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Posted 24 March 2014 - 09:30 AM

you do realise im not going to read all of your comments im probs going to end up with a 1275


So people have taken time to answer your questions and you've basically told them to shove their advice?

Don't be surprised when people are less than forthcoming with help next time you post a question!

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Posted 24 March 2014 - 09:37 AM

your a cat with strong bow lol



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Posted 24 March 2014 - 09:39 AM

I hate catssss



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Posted 24 March 2014 - 09:41 AM

I read the guy who's pp is like a pink/zebra monkey thing



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Posted 24 March 2014 - 09:46 AM

To many a classic car without its original type of engine is no longer the true classic, it is a 'hybrid' or 'hot rod'. Imagine putting a 3.5 litre diesel engine from a BMW into a Jaguar E-Type. It would go well, but it would be tragic to spoil a true classic.

 

People buy classic cars because that's what interests them. If modern performance is desired, then a modern car will be so much cheaper and more reliable.

 

I've driven several re-engine (non A-series) Minis and I must say I've not enjoyed any of them. They are, quite simply, no longer Minis and have lost that 'Mini Retro' feel.

 

Still, if you own something you can do with it as you please.

I don't think you understand the idea of modification but whatever floats your boat I guess



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Posted 24 March 2014 - 09:47 AM

I'm about £3500 into a rebuild and vauxhall small block conversion on my mini and I built my own frame.

 

Realistically you are going to spend around £250 on a donor car (buy a complete donor, it makes life a lot easier), the best part of a grand on a conversion kit when you include drive shafts and the modified lower arms, £100 or so on brakes once you have bought them and rebuilt them, another £350-500 on an after market ECU if you need it (and a lot of them do), £50-100 or so on a manifold/throttle bodies (most standard manifolds don't fit so have to be modified or you have to cut the bulkhead), then you have the exhaust to sort out and the clutch and brake master cylinder to deal with. A pedal box will set you back another £300 or so.

 

You will also need to be able to weld as none of the conversion kits offer the gear linkage already sorted out. You will have to cut and modify the existing one and possibly fit a bulkhead box to clear this as well.

 

Then add on about another £500 for all the other bits and pieces you will forget like pipe work, radiator, speedo cable, fuel tank, fuel lines and fittings, hilos to corner weight it properly, tracking check after its been put together, etc, etc.

 

A 1275 a series isn't sounding too bad now is it?



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Posted 24 March 2014 - 09:50 AM

I'm about £3500 into a rebuild and vauxhall small block conversion on my mini and I built my own frame.

 

Realistically you are going to spend around £250 on a donor car (buy a complete donor, it makes life a lot easier), the best part of a grand on a conversion kit when you include drive shafts and the modified lower arms, £100 or so on brakes once you have bought them and rebuilt them, another £350-500 on an after market ECU if you need it (and a lot of them do), £50-100 or so on a manifold/throttle bodies (most standard manifolds don't fit so have to be modified or you have to cut the bulkhead), then you have the exhaust to sort out and the clutch and brake master cylinder to deal with. A pedal box will set you back another £300 or so.

 

You will also need to be able to weld as none of the conversion kits offer the gear linkage already sorted out. You will have to cut and modify the existing one and possibly fit a bulkhead box to clear this as well.

 

Then add on about another £500 for all the other bits and pieces you will forget like pipe work, radiator, speedo cable, fuel tank, fuel lines and fittings, hilos to corner weight it properly, tracking check after its been put together, etc, etc.

 

A 1275 a series isn't sounding too bad now is it?

I see your point but it all depends on my choice and when I can make some cash from selling the mass of parts I have lol



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Posted 24 March 2014 - 09:55 AM

Joe, are you trying to get banned?

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Posted 24 March 2014 - 10:16 AM

 

I'm about £3500 into a rebuild and vauxhall small block conversion on my mini and I built my own frame.

 

Realistically you are going to spend around £250 on a donor car (buy a complete donor, it makes life a lot easier), the best part of a grand on a conversion kit when you include drive shafts and the modified lower arms, £100 or so on brakes once you have bought them and rebuilt them, another £350-500 on an after market ECU if you need it (and a lot of them do), £50-100 or so on a manifold/throttle bodies (most standard manifolds don't fit so have to be modified or you have to cut the bulkhead), then you have the exhaust to sort out and the clutch and brake master cylinder to deal with. A pedal box will set you back another £300 or so.

 

You will also need to be able to weld as none of the conversion kits offer the gear linkage already sorted out. You will have to cut and modify the existing one and possibly fit a bulkhead box to clear this as well.

 

Then add on about another £500 for all the other bits and pieces you will forget like pipe work, radiator, speedo cable, fuel tank, fuel lines and fittings, hilos to corner weight it properly, tracking check after its been put together, etc, etc.

 

A 1275 a series isn't sounding too bad now is it?

I see your point but it all depends on my choice and when I can make some cash from selling the mass of parts I have lol

 

You're right it is your choice. I was just informing you of the realistic costs of doing an engine conversion and that thinking a 1275 a series is more expensive is most likely wrong.

 

If you choose to ignore mine or anyone else's advice that's fine but your previous comment wasn't really necessary about ignoring people's advice on staying with a 1275.

 

The simplest answer to your original question is a 1275 A series.

 

No other engine conversion is cheap or simple. I know this from experience much like The Matt, Cradley-Heathen and others who have posted on this thread.






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