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#1 Mrt88

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 07:49 AM

Hi all.
I put my wiper motor back in yesterday but I couldn't get it to work. All I did when I removed it was unclip it from the park switch.
Reconditioned and greased it. I went to use it and got nothing. At the same time I was changing my number plate lights. They now don't work either. I have a picture if my fuse (third one done, on a 4 fuse box)
It's blown. Would this stop both working ? Or is it something else ?
Also should my wiper motor be earthed ? It has a little tab near the worm gear that looks like it should have a spade wire on it.

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Theo !!

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 07:56 AM

The number plate lamps use the sidelight fuse, so the two aren't linked. The blown fuse will stop the wiper motor. Yes the casing itself needs a direct earth as well as the one in the plug.

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 08:09 AM

Ok I'll wire up a direct earth for it. I can't believe it need had one before. Could this be why it ran rubbish ?
Does anyone know of a list of the 4 fuses ? I'm on my way to the shops right now to get some. Sorry to have to ask. If I was at home I would have a look and find it

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 08:10 AM

1 x 35 amp
2 x 25 amp
1 x 15 amp

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 01:06 PM

Oh, and if you want to know what they feed, look at the colours of the attached wires. I am not convinced that the fuses were always in the same order, or perhaps previous owners had swapped them around, putting things back together wrongly, but the wire colours are always consistent unless the loom has been severely butchered. There is a combination of 2 or 4 fuses in the box, and others in-line. If you have 4, and only a few line fuses, they "should" be as follows:

 

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1 White (supply from ignition switch) - 35A fuse- 2 Green (brake and reverse lamps, indicators, heated rear window, control input to dim dip unit. All stuff that should operate only with engine running.

 

3 Brown (permanent live from battery) - 25A fuse - 4 Purple (horn, headlight flasher, brake failure warning circuit, radio memory) All stuff that can be activated at any time with or without ignition.

 

5 Light green-white (accessory position of ignition switch) - 25A fuse - 6 Heater motor, wiper motor, washers, sometimes instruments, and possibly electric fan. All stuff that you may want when ignition key is in, but engine not running.

 

7 Red (first position of light switch) - 15A fuse - 8 Red-green Side and rear lights, instrument panel lights, another control input to dim dip unit.

 

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(In addition, fuse 7-8 may be feeding only the LEFT side and tail lights, red-black, and a line fuse from red will feed the RIGHT lights, red-white.)

 

If you have line fuses, they will be at least

 

Brown (permanently live) - 15A fuse - Purple-orange - hazards and interior lamps (otherwise fed from purple)

 

Blue (from headlight position of light switch) - 10A fuse - Blue-orange - rear fog lamp

 

Brown (permanently live) - 15A fuse - Brown-orange - power to dim-dip unit

 

Later models may have many more, but the colours should be consistent, which should help to clarify many problems, and also serve to indicate where to connect any additional accessories.



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Posted 07 May 2014 - 01:22 PM

Thank you for that reply!!!
Once the rain stops I'll go out and have a look.
I replaced the fuse with another.
So far I have everything working except my wipers and my heater.
I don't have a multi meter so is there anything I can do old school to narrow it down?

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 01:25 PM

Wipers and heaters are the same fuse

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 01:31 PM

Hmm that's the one I just replaced. Would a picture of the fuse box help anyone ? It has a slight score mark on it where the old fuse blew.

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 01:41 PM

what is the yellow lead attached to? 



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Posted 07 May 2014 - 01:53 PM

It's a yellow connector that holds a green and orange cable. Wish I knew more about this stuff.

Thanks for all the help so far guys.

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 02:01 PM

If it makes any difference the only thing I have change recently is all my 501 bulbs to LEDs (except the charge light) and some new headlights. They all work great.

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 02:02 PM

http://www.theminifo...s-covered-data/



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Posted 07 May 2014 - 02:08 PM

Perfect , thank you for that. Just had a test. The washer doesn't work either . But the radio does!!!!
It's a new one so could it be wired up different ?

Small update. The number plate lights are now sorted. So just stuck on the washer wiper and heater. Any help would be amazing , I had my mot in a couple of days !

Thanks all so much
Theo

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 03:57 PM

Is it worth taking everything out another slot and moving everything from 6 over ? To rule out a broken fusebox ? Or is this pointless.after taking load of pictures of course hahaha

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 05:36 PM

There's little chance the fuse box is actually broken but they do get dirty and grotty, particular on the back, which causes problems. You really need a meter or at least a test lamp. Maybe it's my eyes but the colour of the cable supplying that fuse looks wrong to me. You can easily make a test lamp with one of your leftover bulbs.




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