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#16 The Matt

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Posted 30 October 2014 - 07:57 AM

You don't need anything particularly specialist...other than a little tool for locating in the flywheel at TDC.  Most motorfactors do them, though.  There's a little Draper kit that's OK.  I think I made one out of a bolt and a drillbit last time I did it though.  I definitely didn't buy the tool, because I'm tight!

 

Be careful with the power steering reservoir....you need to remove it for clearance, but the outlet pipe on the bottom of it can get embrittled over age and they sometimes snap off..

 

O/S jacked up, axle stand, wheel off

Header tank out, reservoir moved out of the way, engine mount off (obvs with a jack under engine, with a block of wood to spread load on sump).

Remove auxhiliiary belt.

Set flywheel to TDC and lock in place with tool.

Rocker cover off (miiiight be worth getting a new gasket, but they're normally salvageable though). 

You need a strip of steel (can't remember how thick, maybe 3mm) to lock the cams at TDC on the back of the camshaft, there's a slot.  I think I used a couple of steel rules and padded them out to the correct thickness.

 

Actually, rather than me type it all out, watch this:

 

 

PS: Haynes manual actually covers it well. Still haven't heard your engine noise, but make sure it's not top end rattle, or little end rattle before you spend the money on all of this.



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Posted 30 October 2014 - 01:22 PM

Thanks Matt. I found a video on it yesterday as well. Looked fairly straight forward. I'll see if I can upload a sound clip a bit later. I won't be buying the bits until Sunday anyway when I get back from Bath.

 

Well I happened to be near the Halfords I needed so popped in and got everything I needed, plus service parts so Sunday I will be busy! Now i just need a new gear knob and the car will be like new!


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Posted 02 November 2014 - 04:26 PM

Ok so I am doing this now and I have a very big concern.

 

I have taken the wheel off and all the plastic covers. The engine is jacked up, and I removed the auxiliary belt. I then made sure I was in neutral, and started the car just for a second to see if I could identify where the sound is coming from. 

 

The driver's wheel started turning! The passenger side didn't, thankfully, as it is still touching the ground and would have driven the car off the stands! I am really confused as to why the driver's wheel was turning though. And in that short time, I got scared and turned the engine off quickly so couldn't work out where the sound is coming from. 

 

Any thoughts?!



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Posted 02 November 2014 - 04:58 PM

Also, I have managed to get the water pump pulley off but can't force the water pump out. 



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Posted 02 November 2014 - 06:11 PM

It's normal for the wheel to turn with the car jacked up and engine running.



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Posted 02 November 2014 - 06:25 PM

Ok....why? Shouldn't it be in gear for that to happen?



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Posted 02 November 2014 - 06:39 PM

Yeah mate, it's the diff. 

 

Ithought the same the first time i started a car with it jacked up



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Posted 02 November 2014 - 08:02 PM

Ok. I am trying to put the aux belt back on and having major dramas with it. The tensioner seems to not be a tensioner but just another idler puller, and as such the belt just will not fit into place. Any ideas?



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Posted 02 November 2014 - 08:10 PM

It's not one of those sprung tensioners is it where you pop a tool on it (spanner or allen key or something) and pull it back, slip the belt on and release?

 

I done head gaskets on a vectra and a xsara and both had this system. the vectra, you put a spanner on the pulley bolt and levered it across and the Xsara was the same but had a square hole in it which i made a tool for the job using the square dowel from an interior door handle in the house which fits perfectly, then you just put a spanner on the square edges and lever if that makes sense??



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Posted 02 November 2014 - 08:11 PM

idler is on the tensioner arm, think 13mm to turn it?



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Posted 02 November 2014 - 08:19 PM

These engines are known to jump a tooth when the tensioner starts to go.

Take of the Aux belt and start it up and see if the noise goes or stays with idles and tensioner on the Aux belt.

If it continues strip out so you can see the Cambelt and check timing and start it up with covers of without touching the Cambelt

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Posted 02 November 2014 - 08:39 PM

Its plain just not working. I can't seem to loosen the tensioner off one little bit to get the netback on. My partner is now pissed off as this has taken so long and she now has to walk to work or get a taxi because I can't fix it. I'm 5 minutes away from smashing the thing to bits and scrapping it. 



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Posted 02 November 2014 - 08:48 PM

Is it a stretch over belt?

Some are in which case it just needs forcing on as far round as possible onto the top of the pulley then turn the engine over by hand clockwise and it will pull itself into place.



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Posted 02 November 2014 - 09:06 PM

Sorry yes most ford have stretch aux belt, no tensioner only a tensioner on the Cambelt

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Posted 02 November 2014 - 09:23 PM

I have worked out what I need to do. Bottom left, with the tensioner pulley, I use a 15mm spanner and pull the damn as hard as I can clockwise as if I were tightening the bolt. This loosens the tensioners and I then need to try and get it over the last pulley. The water pump seems the obvious choice as it is smooth with no lip. However, I am not strong enough to pull the spanner enough and get the belt in place at the same time. The car is in bits, I have a had  stupid row with the gf and now she has gone to work and I won't see her until tomorrow night now. 

 

Screw this stupid car. 






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