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[Guess-Works.com]

However......

I see there's a new section...

 

Reconstructed Classic Vehicles...

 

https://www.gov.uk/v...lassic-vehicles

[nicklouse]

However......
I see there's a new section...
 
Reconstructed Classic Vehicles...
 
https://www.gov.uk/v...lassic-vehicles

Now that IS interesting.

[Guess-Works.com]

It is until you read the penultimate paragraph....

 

Your vehicle won’t get an age-related registration number if it includes new or replica parts. DVLA will give your vehicle a ‘Q’ prefix registration number. Your vehicle must pass the relevant type approval test to get a ‘Q’ prefix registration number.

 

Which means an IVA which a mini will not pass.

[Steve G]

I've spent a long time recently looking at the DVLA webiste and not read that bit, The have been updating things recently so I wonder if that's just been added. 

 

I wonder what they consider new parts, there can't be any Mini on the road that hasn't had any non genuine of new parts fitted to it.  

Edited by Steve G, 27 February 2015 - 05:04 PM.

[nicklouse]

It is until you read the penultimate paragraph....
 
Your vehicle won’t get an age-related registration number if it includes new or replica parts. DVLA will give your vehicle a ‘Q’ prefix registration number. Your vehicle must pass the relevant type approval test to get a ‘Q’ prefix registration number.
 
Which means an IVA which a mini will not pass.

Yep. And I think of how many Q plate Minis I have owned. They will be quite sort after now.

[nicklouse]

I've spent a long time recently looking at the DVLA webiste and not read that bit, The have been updating things recently so I wonder if that's just been added.

It says at the bottom updated 12 nov 2014.

[Dan]

Reconstructed Classic is not a new registration class, it's been around for ages and I've posted about it often. But it's hard to prove. You have to prove it's a copy of a specific historically significant vehicle such as a famous race car, and prove that the original no longer exists. If you can't prove that, but you can prove that all the parts you have used are of a certain age, it will be classed as a Built Up Vehicle and get an age related plate. Reconstructed Classic and Built Up Vehicle classes are both prohibited from holding historic tax status though, to dissuade people from making pointless logbook replicas. It is intentionally either an expensive process or a lot of hard work to build one to make sure the classes are used by enthusiasts. Both classes have always required the use of exclusively age related parts.

[Cooperman]

One might wonder what is actually meant by 'new or replica parts'.

What about new wheel bearings, new fuel lines, new headlights, new windscreen (laminated), new seat belts, new radiator, etc., etc.?

Where do service repair items become 'new or replica parts' under these rules. Has anyone got clarification on this?

[ibrooks]

 

BHM Heritage shells are the ONLY shells which may be used for a legitimate reshell

Have the DVLA given BMH some sort of special dispensation? What makes their shells legally different?

 

 

 

BMH are different because they were spun off as a separate business by Rover (who retained ownership) and the original tooling was transferred to them and they supplied Rover with shells. Through that tangled web they are deemed to be the original manufacturer of the shells (or a continuation of that manufacturer) so from a legal standpoint a BMH shell is currently a shell from the original manufacturer.

 

Early on when all this was being decided the rule didn't say that the new shell had to come from the same manufacturer so if you could make a convincing argument at the local registration office something like an FRA shell could be used and keep the cars ID as it was a new shell and didn't significantly alter the vehicle's appearance. A few cars were registered like this and by the strict letter of the law did not need to go through SVA as it was then. This was the point where I was looking at buying FRA and manufacturing shells. But they got wise and tightened up on the wording - hence "original manufacturer" and "same design". It was fairly obvious this was coming which was one of the reasons I ultimately didn't buy the rights and moulds.

 

Still not 100% whether I regret that or not. I reckon I could have easily broken even as a minimum before the regs changes actually hit but hindsight is a wonderful thing. I was planning to grab as many rusty Minis as I could lay my hands on (bearing in mind that MOT failures were easily sub £500 at that point) and register lots of shells using the bare minimum required to get them to MOT standard. I'd then sell them as a pre-registered rolling shell - they would start, stop and steer and have had a drivers seat but not much else - you would take it from there and build your car to your spec.

 

Iain

[fenghuang]

Wish you had. I would have bought one!