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#16 Mk1Dave

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Posted 05 November 2016 - 02:37 PM

15CC106A-9DA0-4120-85A1-A67929131E31.jpgI'm running about standard ride height. On 10" wheels. This is the clearance of the sump guard.

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Posted 05 November 2016 - 05:04 PM

Just to add, the sump guard is a Monty/Scottish Alloy type.

 

Darren, what did you think of the photo?

 

Cheers

 

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Hi Ben did you email it to me or post it on the forum somewhere as I haven't seen it yet



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Posted 05 November 2016 - 05:21 PM

15CC106A-9DA0-4120-85A1-A67929131E31.jpgI'm running about standard ride height. On 10" wheels. This is the clearance of the sump guard.

Hi Mk1Dave what are you using you mini for, road, track, rally etc?



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Posted 05 November 2016 - 05:35 PM

Thank you for all the comments and links 

 

The mini's not slammed to the floor but though a sump guard might have been a good idea as a way of protecting the sump form the poor state of the B roads around our way



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Posted 05 November 2016 - 07:23 PM

 

Just to add, the sump guard is a Monty/Scottish Alloy type.

 

Darren, what did you think of the photo?

 

Cheers

 

Ben

Hi Ben did you email it to me or post it on the forum somewhere as I haven't seen it yet

 

E-mail yesterday afternoon.

 

Ill see if i still have the pic on the camera



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Posted 05 November 2016 - 07:48 PM

Sump guards are really for rally cars which are generally raised slightly from standard.

 

If your car is lowered and you feel there is a risk of damage to the sump (crack the casting and it becomes mega-expensive) then you have 2 choices:

 

Raise it up to standard ride height (and get back the better road-holding and handling on bumpy roads) or simply drive slowly on bumpy (i.e. normal) roads.

 

The problem with a sump guard on an already low car is that it will keep on hitting the ground and each time it hits it puts an impact load into the sub-frame and, in addition, it slows the car down.  That is why standard ride height is best for road cars with lowered cars being for smooth race track use.



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Posted 05 November 2016 - 07:58 PM

Thank you for all the comments and links 

 

The mini's not slammed to the floor but though a sump guard might have been a good idea as a way of protecting the sump form the poor state of the B roads around our way

If you do decide to fit a sump guard bear in mind that oil temperature will increase very significantly when used on long runs at high speed, and if oil cooler is not fitted this could result in engine damage.

 

This is one of the few situations where fitting an oil cooler to a road car is worth doing.



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Posted 05 November 2016 - 11:05 PM


15CC106A-9DA0-4120-85A1-A67929131E31.jpgI'm running about standard ride height. On 10" wheels. This is the clearance of the sump guard.

Hi Mk1Dave what are you using you mini for, road, track, rally etc?
Mainly road. But have done/do a couple of 12 car rallies in it

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Posted 07 November 2016 - 08:50 PM

 

Thank you for all the comments and links 

 

The mini's not slammed to the floor but thought a sump guard might have been a good idea as a way of protecting the sump form the poor state of the B roads around our way

If you do decide to fit a sump guard bear in mind that oil temperature will increase very significantly when used on long runs at high speed, and if oil cooler is not fitted this could result in engine damage.

 

This is one of the few situations where fitting an oil cooler to a road car is worth doing.

 

Thanks Carbon good point about the oil temperature



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Posted 07 November 2016 - 08:51 PM

 

 

15CC106A-9DA0-4120-85A1-A67929131E31.jpgI'm running about standard ride height. On 10" wheels. This is the clearance of the sump guard.

Hi Mk1Dave what are you using you mini for, road, track, rally etc?
Mainly road. But have done/do a couple of 12 car rallies in it

 

Cheer Mk1Dave



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Posted 07 November 2016 - 11:07 PM

I had one fitted to my mini Marcos years ago ... I remember trying to park forwards in a space in the dark, the whole car bounced back as I approached at a youthful good speed, what I did not realise is the space had one of those fold down poles and I hit it square on ... No damage to the subframe and only a slight scrape to the guard ....so sometimes they are worth it.

On the point of oil cooling it made little difference, had the poor old thing flat out on a French autoroute for hours in the Mediterranean summer heat and oil pressure held well.

Mine was so close to the sump it almost touched.

Makes it super easy to jack the car up too.

My one weighed in at about two tons I think, seemed to be made out of 10mm steel!

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Posted 08 November 2016 - 08:58 PM

Hi All,

 

Ben has sent me the photo 

 

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looks like 4x2 and that's not cockney rhyming slang for what I think of it :ohno:  but the size of the timber supporting the sump guard



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Posted 08 November 2016 - 09:33 PM

You can see that the sump guard will sit a little higher once bolted as it is resting on the wood. you would gain another 1/2 inch or so.



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Posted 08 November 2016 - 09:35 PM

 

 

looks like 4x2 and that's not cockney rhyming slang for what I think of it

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Posted 08 November 2016 - 09:49 PM

IVe got an innocenti style sumpguard fitted to Vini

 

http://minispares.co...|Back to search

 

pics when i got it
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i dont seem to have pics of it fitted

 

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