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#31 KarmaVenture

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Posted 01 July 2017 - 02:13 PM

I'd like to say i've done 200mph - 'bucket lister' though suspect that would not involve a mini! I managed 140 in my Cooper Works (will I can't banned for mentioning BMW minis?!?), the supercharged version, wouldn't have liked to go any more - sketchy.

 

Yeah, I know, of course mini's are all about impossible cornering speeds and the joy of man and machine... but just for giggles :)



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Posted 02 July 2017 - 01:36 AM

How about fastest piston powered vehicle?

Mine would be 300+mph in a P51 mustang................



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Posted 02 July 2017 - 09:11 AM

How about fastest piston powered vehicle?

Mine would be 300+mph in a P51 mustang................

I'll see your mustang and raise it, de Havilland Mosquito 392mph 



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Posted 02 July 2017 - 10:11 AM

 

How about fastest piston powered vehicle?

Mine would be 300+mph in a P51 mustang................

I'll see your mustang and raise it, de Havilland Mosquito 392mph 

 

How the hell did you manage a ride in a Mozzie!!



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Posted 02 July 2017 - 10:27 AM


 


How about fastest piston powered vehicle?
Mine would be 300+mph in a P51 mustang................

I'll see your mustang and raise it, de Havilland Mosquito 392mph 
 
How the hell did you manage a ride in a Mozzie!!
My bad, I didn't realise it was for a personal ride. There's no way I can have done it because there's only two flying in the world, one in the states and they've just got a second one flying in New Zealand.

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Posted 02 July 2017 - 07:13 PM

As an ex-de Havilland student apprentice, the Mosquito is very dear to my heart. In fact it was the first multi-role combat aircraft in the truest sense, as it was not a basic type which was adapted to do other roles not particularly well, it was a success in every role it undertook. It was, quite simply, superb and represented de Havilland's original thinking in all things aeronautical. The Germans hated it whilst Hermann Goering was just envious!



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Posted 03 July 2017 - 09:04 AM

As an ex-de Havilland student apprentice, the Mosquito is very dear to my heart. In fact it was the first multi-role combat aircraft in the truest sense, as it was not a basic type which was adapted to do other roles not particularly well, it was a success in every role it undertook. It was, quite simply, superb and represented de Havilland's original thinking in all things aeronautical. The Germans hated it whilst Hermann Goering was just envious!

I couldn't agree more, I'm envious of you working for them, what a great aircraft. I know this has drifted from the OP's original post but I thought I would just put down a couple of memories. I first became aware of the Mosquito during a summer job while at Uni in the 1970's. I got some work with a joiner (who was a very quiet man) but over the course of a couple of summers he became a little more talkative.

 

It turned out during the war he had been a navigator, initially in Lancasters and then progressed to the Mosquito as part of the pathfinder force and eventually being Master Bomber 17 times. He explained in a manner that only a face to face discussion can convey the fear they went through night after night. At one point they went back to the same target three consecutive nights knowing the enemy would be waiting for them. Brave guys indeed; it makes me smile when a commentator says a footballer is brave when he walks up to take a penalty.

 

He flew out of Downham Market and went back many years after the war for the dedication of a small memorial at the former airfield, while he was there, he went round some of the old buildings that were still standing and found some small discarded items. Some of the ones he showed me were a collection of what looked like melted tubes; it turned out to be the exhaust stubs off the Merlin engines. Apparently after they had dropped their bomb load they opened the throttles as far as possible and set off for home as quickly as possible but because they were attacking targets so far from home they were very often marginal on fuel, therefore, to gain the maximum range they leaned off the mixture and this caused the engines to run much hotter and therefore burn the ends off the exhaust stubs. This had the consequence of highlighting their position due to the exhaust flames being exposed to the night sky making them an easier prey for marauding night fighters. Their only saving grace was the Mossie was such a fast beautiful handling aircraft the trade off was worth it because he lived to tell the tale.

 

What was surprising was it was an offence to knowingly damage government property i.e. burning exhaust stubs off, so the ground crew had to replace them saying they were battle damage.

 

Being built of wood meant it could withstand a lot of flack damage and still get home but the wooden construction did have a downside. After the war a couple of squadrons were sold to air-forces in the middle east and he went out as part of the familiarisation crew, unfortunately, they started experiencing structural failure during flight. What no one had realised was the intense heat over there was un-bonding the glue and they were literally falling apart. They were so unsafe they had to be left out there, I wonder what happened to them.

 

I know this has drifted from the original post and if the moderators don't think it appropriate then remove it.



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Posted 03 July 2017 - 10:39 AM

My Grandad was a chippy and built these in the war ... I think he said they used cascamite to glue then together and I seem to remember the water based one they would have used being sensitive to high heat.



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Posted 03 July 2017 - 11:49 AM

Isn't it where Araldite got started? The Germans tried to copy some wooden airframes, but failed because they couldn't replicate the glue.



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Posted 03 July 2017 - 12:43 PM

Isn't it where Araldite got started? The Germans tried to copy some wooden airframes, but failed because they couldn't replicate the glue.

No Araldite was developed in Switzerland after the war.

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Posted 03 July 2017 - 07:27 PM

The Germans have had problems with glue on wooden aircraft structures.

I own a Schleicher wooden vintage sailplane and it is German. There has been an issue recently with the glue used on some aircraft which used Kaurit glue and some Schleicher gliders have been scrapped. Fortunately mine has passed all the new rigorous inspections so far.

The glues used by de Havilland on their wooden aircraft was good British glue, although in damp and humid climates even that could deteriorate with time.

Ciba-Geigy, based at Duxford, were/are leaders in glue technology.



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Posted 03 July 2017 - 07:42 PM

yes its drifted from the original post but really fascinating stories.

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Posted 03 July 2017 - 08:39 PM

Sorry about the thread drift.

 

I have driven my 1973 Porsche 911 Carrera 2.7 RST at 150 mph (in Germany, of course). I wish I still owned it, but I sold it to buy and restore an old farm-house back in 1996. Had it for 17 years though. At the same time we sold a Rolls-Royce Silver Shadow as the farm house only had a double garage and I wanted to keep the two Mini-Coopers.



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Posted 03 July 2017 - 09:23 PM

I used to get 54 mph out of my vespa



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Posted 06 July 2017 - 10:31 AM

Fascinating stuff about the aeroplanes! Brave men who our generation would do well to remember.

Back to top speeds:- my 850 cruises happily at 50, will do 60 reluctantly and has done 70 down hill on a motorway but really doesn't like it. I treat the old girl with respect normally.
Don't know what speed I've done in other minis, speedo needle stopped just past 90!




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