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#46 gaspen

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Posted 22 February 2020 - 06:02 PM

A little process today. I am not sure that the spot-welded, cone-shaped support will be strong enough. 

 

 Naturally there will be more spots when finished. I just don't want to drill 10 spots if I f@ck up  :D

 

What's your opinion ?

 

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Posted 22 February 2020 - 07:17 PM

Excellent work,the cones will be plenty strong enough,the shape gives the strength.Steve..

#48 greenwheels

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Posted 23 February 2020 - 11:15 AM

Spots look good.

Do a test piece on a couple of scrap pieces and then try to force them apart with a hammer and cold chisel. It should be difficult to part them.If you hammer hard and long enough they will come apart but so long as the centre weld stays intact on one piece you're OK.



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Posted 23 February 2020 - 05:05 PM

As above, but if you take the two welded test pieces and hold one-piece in the vice you can use a pair of pliers to pull it apart. If you have a hole on one of them, you're golden. ?Attached File  _20200223_180329.JPG   32.85K   1 downloads
You should have a 4mm pip after ripping to have a strong weld.

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Posted 23 February 2020 - 06:51 PM

I was so immersed in the work that I just welded and welded  :D I hope it will be strong enough, but tomorrow I do the test in the vice.

 

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This happens when an old piece become a template  :proud:

 

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#51 gaspen

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Posted 04 March 2020 - 11:49 AM

Hello, please help me a little bit

 

Is this the correct orientation of the rear mount ? I mean the thick part is at the back and the thin is forward.

 

The hole of the bushes is NOT on the middle.

 

(Not mine subframe pictured)

 

Thanks

 

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#52 MacGyver

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Posted 04 March 2020 - 12:10 PM

I belive those are the wrong way round.
Someone will confirm in a minute...

#53 MacGyver

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Posted 04 March 2020 - 12:13 PM

On my old mini they are this way too, just had a look, but it might be wrong as I built it 20years ago with no clue. ?Attached File  image.gif   43.18K   3 downloads

Edited by MacGyver, 04 March 2020 - 04:35 PM.


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Posted 04 March 2020 - 02:51 PM

Hello, please help me a little bit

 

Is this the correct orientation of the rear mount ? I mean the thick part is at the back and the thin is forward.

 

The hole of the bushes is NOT on the middle.

 

(Not mine subframe pictured)

 

Thanks

 

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Looks right to me.



#55 imack

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Posted 04 March 2020 - 06:08 PM

Mine are as per your photograph.

Edited by imack, 04 March 2020 - 06:09 PM.


#56 gaspen

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Posted 05 March 2020 - 11:22 AM

Thank guys ! Now it fits better  :shifty:

 

Started to assembly the parts. I think I have to purchase more pliers  :lol:

 

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Posted 05 March 2020 - 04:07 PM

I was so immersed in the work that I just welded and welded  :D I hope it will be strong enough, but tomorrow I do the test in the vice.

 

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This happens when an old piece become a template  :proud:

 

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Although the spot welds look good i would seam weld there as well. Lots of forces transmitted there so seam welding will ensure you have maximum strength.



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Posted 05 March 2020 - 05:20 PM

 

I was so immersed in the work that I just welded and welded  :D I hope it will be strong enough, but tomorrow I do the test in the vice.

 

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This happens when an old piece become a template  :proud:

 

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Although the spot welds look good i would seam weld there as well. Lots of forces transmitted there so seam welding will ensure you have maximum strength.

 

 

I think that I'll seam weld only that cone. Unfortunately the aligment of the cone support bowl on which the rubber cone seats is not so good.

 

I also thought that I cut the cones from the old pieces and weld them to the new beams, but there is too much rust. So I reject this idea.


Edited by gaspen, 05 March 2020 - 05:21 PM.


#59 gaspen

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Posted 12 March 2020 - 05:02 PM

Cones are almost finished. Some griding is needed.

 

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Posted 15 March 2020 - 11:23 AM

Cone welding and grinding is finished now on all 4 beams.

 

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I had more ideas about the rim of the support and finally I made this piece :

 

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It fits like this. The arched flange will be seam welded to the cone.

 

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The heel fits to the other side and it will be spot welded

 

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