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[mab01uk]

Or maybe they’re concerned about paying for all the furlough payments and other covid handouts?

 

Apparently sales of expensive 'supercars' boomed as a result of covid cash handouts to newly created 'companies' with no proper checks on whether they were legitimate.....
 

[PoolGuy]

I thought the boom in supercar sales was just a result of people speculating on future values? It wasn’t just supercars, classics increased in value substantially and continue to do so, admittedly at a slower rate. Pensions were cashed in to fund purchases as it seemed a better place to have some of your money.

 

Obviously some of the sales of cars were funded by the bounce back loans, as they were ridiculously easy to obtain, banks were desperate to give them out as there was no risk to them.

 

Apologies if this is all getting a bit political, which is probably against the rules? 

[unburntfuelinthemorning]

 

 

 

But the batteries will still be where we put 'em and not spread out 20-30 thousand feet up in the air. So we can recycle them, or store them more easily until we figure out how to do it best.
I can't remember where, but I think I read that if they're no longer keep enough charge to work well enough for a car, they can be put to good use in energy storage banks for solar and calm days

Let's just hope they don't catch fire when all stored together.

Good point well said

 

Indeed, who's ever heard of petrol catching fire 

 

At least it's possible to extinguish a petrol fire relatively easily.

[stuart bowes]

Scooters are just a liability anyway, the number of times I've seen young mums whizzing their little primary school aged kids around 2 up on a scooter..

 

on the pavement is bad enough but at least that's better than on the wrong side of the road, cutting across corners, going round roundabouts the wrong way, etc etc

 

it's only a matter of time before there's a tragic accident and some poor driver has to live with themselves after popping a little kid like a messy balloon. obviously it will be all the drivers fault as well wont it

 

they're illegal pure and simple yet people just brazenly use them all the time 

[Bobbins]

 

 

 

 

But the batteries will still be where we put 'em and not spread out 20-30 thousand feet up in the air. So we can recycle them, or store them more easily until we figure out how to do it best.
I can't remember where, but I think I read that if they're no longer keep enough charge to work well enough for a car, they can be put to good use in energy storage banks for solar and calm days

Let's just hope they don't catch fire when all stored together.

Good point well said

 

Indeed, who's ever heard of petrol catching fire 

 

At least it's possible to extinguish a petrol fire relatively easily.

 

 

If you do some basic research you'll discover that a petrol car is substantially more likely to have a fire than an electric car ....

[Ethel]

It's not so much the vehicles. Combustion engines require a whole ecology constantly supplying combustibles. History may prove me wrong, but I can't foresee a lithium battery equivalent of Piper Alpha, Torrey Canyon or Buncefield.

 

I'd be less confident predicting we'll even still be using lithium in batteries, but energy from wind, tide & sun is going to be electrical so it won't be wasted as a starting point for the infrastructure to replace that of fossil fuels.

[unburntfuelinthemorning]

 

 

 

 

 

But the batteries will still be where we put 'em and not spread out 20-30 thousand feet up in the air. So we can recycle them, or store them more easily until we figure out how to do it best.
I can't remember where, but I think I read that if they're no longer keep enough charge to work well enough for a car, they can be put to good use in energy storage banks for solar and calm days

Let's just hope they don't catch fire when all stored together.

Good point well said

 

Indeed, who's ever heard of petrol catching fire 

 

At least it's possible to extinguish a petrol fire relatively easily.

 

 

If you do some basic research you'll discover that a petrol car is substantially more likely to have a fire than an electric car ....

 

I don't deny that.  If I had to put a fire out though I'd rather it was a petrol car with no lithium batteries.

[sonscar]

Electric cars are not evil.Selling them as the GREEN answer to the world's problems is what perturbs me.Electricity will continue to be generated by the most profitable means which is not necessarily the greenest.Disguising taxes does not make things GREEN.Selling more cars to meet the GREEN targets is questionable.
Just assume the position and take it?Steve..

[unburntfuelinthemorning]

Electric cars are not evil.Selling them as the GREEN answer to the world's problems is what perturbs me.Electricity will continue to be generated by the most profitable means which is not necessarily the greenest.Disguising taxes does not make things GREEN.Selling more cars to meet the GREEN targets is questionable.
Just assume the position and take it?Steve..

Indeed.  I quite like electric motors.  They're low maintenance and reliable.  Trolley buses didn't hang around.  As for modern cars, they certainly shift.  I'm just not keen on the batteries with their excess weight, and production and end of life issues.  I would rather like to be able to continue to use an A series engine for a long time though.  

 

If they truly wanted things to be "green" we'd have a smaller choice in vehicles and they would be built to last as long as possible and to be easily upgradable.  We wouldn't scrap them because they had a minor issue which made them next to worthless.  The amount of energy used in constantly recycling and then manufacturing new vehicles to replace them doesn't bear thinking about.  Of course us classic Mini owners are setting a great example anyway by keeping our vehicles in use.

[PoolGuy]

This made me laugh https://www.telegrap...s-car-charging/