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[unburntfuelinthemorning]

About time.  Bit pricey though.

 

http://www.minispare...|Back to search

 

 

Are these the same as the ones from Guessworks?  Those are far cheaper.

 

http://www.guess-wor...play.htm?id=611

 

[Shooter63]

I can't imagine that there are many companies making sealed ball joints, so I expect they are the same. I bought a new set of ball joints and they were so far out of spec, I binned them and bought a set of guessworks ones, job done.

Shooter

[timmy850]

There’s also the original type ones from Japan which are about £40 each at the current exchange rate. I believe from previous posts they are different to the Guessworks ones
https://classicminis...ee-ball-joints/

A recent post by David at CMJ confirms Minispares are selling the same ones as him

Minispares have a photo on Facebook and they are stamped “Mini Delta” which is a Japanese mini shop
https://m.facebook.c...mibextid=ykz3hl


Mini delta website
https://delta-mini.c...ーボールジョイント＆ロックタ/

Edited by timmy850, 27 January 2023 - 08:47 PM.

[alex-95]

Minispares Have stated they are different joints to the ones Guessworks sell.  I wonder how long roughly they last compared to standard ones?

[mab01uk]

Also available a bit cheaper for 4-off

MAINTENANCE FREE BALL JOINTS - (CAR SET of 4) C-GSJ166KIT
£224.64 inc vat.
http://www.minispare...MS.aspx|Back to

 

[IntMilkBrilliant]

I can't imagine that there are many companies making sealed ball joints, so I expect they are the same. I bought a new set of ball joints and they were so far out of spec, I binned them and bought a set of guessworks ones, job done.

Shooter

They are not the same...

[Shooter63]

I can't imagine that there are many companies making sealed ball joints, so I expect they are the same. I bought a new set of ball joints and they were so far out of spec, I binned them and bought a set of guessworks ones, job done.

Shooter

They are not the same...

What's the difference then?

Shooter

[mini13]

sadly it's a probably case of supply and demand, if they could sell loads then the price would come down, but it's a limited market.

it's more more cost effective in the long run to go down the kad alloy hub route,

[timmy850]

I can't imagine that there are many companies making sealed ball joints, so I expect they are the same. I bought a new set of ball joints and they were so far out of spec, I binned them and bought a set of guessworks ones, job done.

Shooter

They are not the same...

What's the difference then?

Shooter

They are made by different companies

From David Ainley at CMJ
“ Another local write up about the maintenance free ball joints here in Japan over the weekend.

Unlike the copies that are floating around the UK at the minute, the original was in testing for over 3yrs and is continuously being checked for improvements and weak points.

Requires greasing on initial installation.

http://classicminisj...all-joint-kit/”

[ac427]

So the CMJ ones are different from the MS ones?

Are the Mini Delta ones different the CMJ supplied ones?

Edited by ac427, 28 January 2023 - 04:21 PM.

[timmy850]

CMJ = Minispares = Mini Delta

Bottle top is a different supplier

[Alex_B]

I am also curious as to the differences between the CMJ / Delta Mini ball joints vs Guessworks ones. I have fitted a few sets of Guessworks joints now and have been very impressed with the quality but have seen some differences of opinion posted online, unsure on how much should be read into that however. 

But overall I definitely see the benefits of the fit & forget joints, it's hard to justify the cost of fitting standard type joints when factoring labour costs / time involved in lapping them in compared with how much quicker it is to fit the sealed items. On customer cars it's a no brainer in my opinion, glad to see them becoming more available over here now!

[ac427]

I am also curious as to the differences between the CMJ / Delta Mini ball joints vs Guessworks ones. I have fitted a few sets of Guessworks joints now and have been very impressed with the quality but have seen some differences of opinion posted online, unsure on how much should be read into that however. 

But overall I definitely see the benefits of the fit & forget joints, it's hard to justify the cost of fitting standard type joints when factoring labour costs / time involved in lapping them in compared with how much quicker it is to fit the sealed items. On customer cars it's a no brainer in my opinion, glad to see them becoming more available over here now!

 

I didn't realise there was any lapping in to be done. I thought they just fitted in the suspension arm as long as the hole in the arm was clear?

[timmy850]

The stock ones will often have a few high points and it can be worth lapping them in before attempting to shim them. This will also mean there’s a bit longer before they need to be shimmed again as they won’t wear quicker at the start

The sealed ones are pretty much bolt on and go

In terms of workshop labour as he mentions, bolting on a 4 sealed units might take 5 minutes, but shimming the stock ones correctly might take an hour or so. The labour cost might outweigh the additional part cost

[sonscar]

Four standard for £40,four updated for £200+.My time is free(retired)so no brained for standard ones.Paying labour?close choice.Steve..