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#1 PACINO

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Posted 01 September 2026 - 11:48 PM

Which one do you think is better for feeding the twin SU HS2s? Is one quieter than the other? Pros & cons ⛽
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Posted 02 September 2026 - 12:33 AM

AUF214MS is the Mini Spares part number for the German made Hardi electric fuel pump that was recommended to me and I like it, I have one on the mini and also the MG1100.  You should give it consideration.



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Posted 02 September 2026 - 08:16 AM

I will no longer recommend the ECCO as the fuel pressure is a bit high as it spikes to 4.5psi. Depending on which page you look at and the box, the pressure specification all varies. Maybe I've got an odd one but I'd say that is unlikely.

 

At the same time, you will struggle to get a pump which truly outputs the correct pressure.

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For that reason, I usually end up rebuilding mechanical pumps.


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Posted 02 September 2026 - 08:28 AM

I've been using a Facet cube pump for years without any issues



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Posted 02 September 2026 - 10:02 AM

AUF214MS is the Mini Spares part number for the German made Hardi electric fuel pump that was recommended to me and I like it, I have one on the mini and also the MG1100.  You should give it consideration.




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Thanks Croc for your reply. As you can see, I actually bought that pump five years ago (from Minispares) but decided not to install it—and instead sold it—after a friend told me that only a tiny trickle of fuel came out when he mounted it on the rear subframe.

2. I don't want a pump that is as noisy as the one shown in the YouTube video.

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Posted 02 September 2026 - 10:29 AM

a friend told me that only a tiny trickle of fuel came out when he mounted it on the rear subframe.

 

 

My first assumption would be that a filter was installed before the pump. Never a good idea if you ask me (apart from a coarse screen type).



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Posted 02 September 2026 - 10:45 AM

 

a friend told me that only a tiny trickle of fuel came out when he mounted it on the rear subframe.

 

 

My first assumption would be that a filter was installed before the pump. Never a good idea if you ask me (apart from a coarse screen type).

 

 

They will also do that when installed up-side-down. I've found them an awesome pump.



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Posted 02 September 2026 - 10:48 AM

I have Ecco pumps on 2 minis at present and will be fitting another when the mechanical pump packs up on my wife's mini. They are the correct pressure for a mini, if you buy the right model. It acts exactly like an SU Pump, only ticking when the fuel pressure drops. I believe they are pos or neg earth and come complete with mounting bracket etc.

A New Zealand product which I know is used on Morris Minors. MGB's etc. think they're on the Fuelsave website, where you can see the various models available.

I recommend them. (hopefully I'll get a parcel in the post after this)!



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Posted 02 September 2026 - 11:30 AM

I have Ecco pumps on 2 minis at present and will be fitting another when the mechanical pump packs up on my wife's mini. They are the correct pressure for a mini, if you buy the right model. It acts exactly like an SU Pump, only ticking when the fuel pressure drops. I believe they are pos or neg earth and come complete with mounting bracket etc.

A New Zealand product which I know is used on Morris Minors. MGB's etc. think they're on the Fuelsave website, where you can see the various models available.

I recommend them. (hopefully I'll get a parcel in the post after this)!

 

Have you tested the pressure?



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Posted 02 September 2026 - 01:58 PM

 

I have Ecco pumps on 2 minis at present and will be fitting another when the mechanical pump packs up on my wife's mini. They are the correct pressure for a mini, if you buy the right model. It acts exactly like an SU Pump, only ticking when the fuel pressure drops. I believe they are pos or neg earth and come complete with mounting bracket etc.

A New Zealand product which I know is used on Morris Minors. MGB's etc. think they're on the Fuelsave website, where you can see the various models available.

I recommend them. (hopefully I'll get a parcel in the post after this)!

 

Have you tested the pressure?

 

No. these are the ones I use. 2 - 3 psi. https://simonbbc.com...Ss10amEhL5xj6fC

One  is on a 1293 with 80bhp and the other is on my 1098 with 78 bhp. Absolutely no problem with float valves or modern fuels.


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Posted 02 September 2026 - 08:40 PM

Mine has an Ecco pump which is the older style which is a closer copy of the SU pump. It must be over 20 years old as my grandpa put it on years before I had it

I’ve never checked the fuel pressure (it’s on my list of things to do), but I’ve never had float valve issues and I’ve tried 6 different carb setups over the years

I did buy a Hardi pump as a spare last year as I couldn’t find a similar spec Ecco pump

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Posted 02 September 2026 - 10:04 PM

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I was talking with my friend today, and he told me he thinks that pump was defective. Some time later, he bought an MGB GT and installed another German Hardi pump, and he says it works wonderfully.

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Posted 02 September 2026 - 10:21 PM

I have Ecco pumps on 2 minis at present and will be fitting another when the mechanical pump packs up on my wife's mini. They are the correct pressure for a mini, if you buy the right model. It acts exactly like an SU Pump, only ticking when the fuel pressure drops. I believe they are pos or neg earth and come complete with mounting bracket etc.
A New Zealand product which I know is used on Morris Minors. MGB's etc. think they're on the Fuelsave website, where you can see the various models available.
I recommend them. (hopefully I'll get a parcel in the post after this)!

 
Have you tested the pressure?
No. these are the ones I use. 2 - 3 psi. https://simonbbc.com...Ss10amEhL5xj6fC
One  is on a 1293 with 80bhp and the other is on my 1098 with 78 bhp. Absolutely no problem with float valves or modern fuels.

That ECCO fuel pump model is exactly the one I was looking at yesterday. It delivers between 2 and 3 psi, which is precisely what a twin SU HS2 carburetor setup requires. Therefore, installing a pressure regulator might not be necessary, as it won't flood the carburetor float chambers.

Whistler, would you be so kind as to tell me what place have the ECCO pumps installed in your cars?

Many thanks in advance!
Kind regards

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Posted Yesterday, 08:57 AM

That is the ecco that I have.

 

I find it peaks at 4.5psi and the pressure then drops due to the needle leaking.

 

Even the manufacturer now says 4psi: https://fuelflow2020.nz/?page_id=188



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Posted Yesterday, 09:50 AM

 

 

 

I have Ecco pumps on 2 minis at present and will be fitting another when the mechanical pump packs up on my wife's mini. They are the correct pressure for a mini, if you buy the right model. It acts exactly like an SU Pump, only ticking when the fuel pressure drops. I believe they are pos or neg earth and come complete with mounting bracket etc.
A New Zealand product which I know is used on Morris Minors. MGB's etc. think they're on the Fuelsave website, where you can see the various models available.
I recommend them. (hopefully I'll get a parcel in the post after this)!

 
Have you tested the pressure?
No. these are the ones I use. 2 - 3 psi. https://simonbbc.com...Ss10amEhL5xj6fC
One  is on a 1293 with 80bhp and the other is on my 1098 with 78 bhp. Absolutely no problem with float valves or modern fuels.

That ECCO fuel pump model is exactly the one I was looking at yesterday. It delivers between 2 and 3 psi, which is precisely what a twin SU HS2 carburetor setup requires. Therefore, installing a pressure regulator might not be necessary, as it won't flood the carburetor float chambers.

Whistler, would you be so kind as to tell me what place have the ECCO pumps installed in your cars?

Many thanks in advance!
Kind regards

 

Original location on rear subframe, on both cars.






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