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[Doodle]

According to wiki, TATA is the Rover brands parent company

http://en.wikipedia....iki/Rover_(car)

[roofless]

more wiki......................


MINI is an automobile brand owned by the BMW Group

BMW retain the rights to certain brands but rover definately belongs to TATA, ford bought it from BMW so they could continue to use the brand within rangerover.

in its tone, the response sounds like an automated reply that is ambigous and mis-leading.

Edited by roofless, 03 April 2008 - 10:56 PM.

[RobJaxon]

tata automotive owns landrover now though, aswell as jaguar

Edited by RobJaxon, 03 April 2008 - 11:03 PM.

[Doodle]

more wiki......................


MINI is an automobile brand owned by the BMW Group

BMW retain the rights to certain brands but rover definately belongs to TATA, ford bought it from BMW so they could continue to use the brand within rangerover.

in its tone, the response sounds like an automated reply that is ambigous and mis-leading.

who's response, the original question asked was who owns rover, the answer to that question appears to be TATA, if thats not true i'd like to find the answer as much as anyone else, i'm currenly having problems with a parking ticket becase the morons at the ticket office seem to think BMW own rover, though i'm having trouble seeing what it has to do with my ticket, but thats a different story.

[Andrew1408]

Just to let you all know TATA don’t own Jag and Land Rover yet "think of it like buying a house" that’s what we got told in a meeting (I work for Land Rover if you couldn’t guess), they are in final contract terms with Ford but its going to take another few months at least before Ford sign over.
I was certain that BMW owed the MINI name silouhette and the winged badge logo but I did read that on a forum so its not 100% going to be right I guess.

[RobJaxon]

ahh right, ok. the news misconstrued it. made it sound asif landrover were owned by the indians,
silly news

[Andrew1408]

ahh right, ok. the news misconstrued it. made it sound asif landrover were owned by the indians,
silly news

Yea one day I open up the paper and there it is telling me I now work for TATA, next day a brief is held telling us what really is going on and I still work for Ford.
Don’t understand how the papers manage to know the in's and out's of our business before any of the workers are told a single thing.

Edited by Andrew1408, 03 April 2008 - 11:33 PM.

[GreaseMonkey]

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Edited by GreaseMonkey, 03 April 2008 - 11:36 PM.

[Doodle]

ahh right, ok. the news misconstrued it. made it sound asif landrover were owned by the indians,
silly news

Yea one day I open up the paper and there it is telling me I now work for TATA, next day a brief is held telling us what really is going on and I still work for Ford.
Don’t understand how the papers manage to know the in's and out's of our business before any of the workers are told a single thing.

the papers pay for that sort of information

[Andrew1408]

Found this on www.autonews.com its almost 2 years old but think its correct.

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MUNICH -- Germany's BMW, the world's largest premium carmaker, has reached a deal to sell the rights to the Rover brand, the company said today, but it did not name the buyer.

"A binding agreement was made," a spokesman for BMW said, confirming a report in German financial daily Handelsblatt.

BMW licensed the Rover brand to British investors in 2001 as part of a deal to dispose of MG Rover, while selling the Land Rover brand to Ford.

The Munich-based carmaker kept the Mini brand, and builds the popular subcompact at its Oxford plant in Britain.

Outgoing CEO Helmut Panke had said in mid-March that the group was in talks with several Chinese carmakers to sell the Rover rights, but said any decision would require the approval of Ford.

Nanjing Automobile, which acquired MG Rover assets and the sportscar brand MG last year during bankruptcy administration for MG Rover, along with Shanghai Automotive (SAIC) are considered to be the main candidates.

SAIC owns the design rights to two Rover models including the BMW-designed and engineered Rover 75.

The spokesman for BMW said Ford has less than 90 days to stop the deal.

Ford said it was considering whether to exercise the provision for first refusal on the deal.

It added in a statement that any owner of the Rover brand must respect wide-ranging restrictions for the use of the name, in particular in connection with vehicles that share SUV attributes such as 4x4, offroad or all-wheel-drive capability.

Last Wednesday, the Financial Times reported that the rights would be sold for 11 million pounds ($20.8 million) to SAIC.

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So BMW never sold the MINI rights on, which make sense seeing as how they developed the new mini when they still had Rover and since selling Rover have brought out the MINI and the Clubman.

[Jammy]

Just to add. I'm fairly certain that Mini and MINI are considered different......companies? They are definitely seperate trademarks, both of which again are owned by BMW.

[biggav]

to throw a spanner in the works.... BMW own MINI... The licence, design and IP rights of Mini remained with rover...the licence for producing Mini has expired therefore no one really owns it??? you couldn't legally start producing Mini's in a factory as you would need to get EU type approval which it couldn't achieve with the current intelectual property within it.... BUT.. if you did, and called it a Mini.... BMW would be straight on to you for copyright infringment for use of the name as it is too similar to their MINI brand and therefore cannot be used????

i need to lay down.

[biggav]

Rover, MG, Mini, Land Rover are all BRANDS Rover Group was the company Phoenix group was the company which bought MG rover, at around the same time Ford bought Land Rover, Mini was rebranded MINI and the brand identity stayed with BMW..... the old rover MODELS (not brands), ip rights and licences remained with MG ROVER (IN ADMINISTRATION)

Therefore, BMW don't own anything to do with the classic mini except the name MINI... and the MINI silouette is not hugely different from the Mini.. (waits for lightening bolt) so... is it possible that BMW have been getting heavy handed over people using what they thing is THEIR MINI silouette and MINI brand name not the Mini..

back to horizontal.

[Jammy]

According to the governments IP website, BMW owns Mini, and several other classic Mini related trademarks.

Linky.

[biggav]

it's such a tangled web though, more a minefield... there are several parties that each own a piece of it or have some claim over it... who owns riley and wolsley names??? (thinking of sticking a bum on a Zcars monte and calling it an elf or hornet!!!)