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[RacingGreen]

do what ever you want mate just dont tell people on here as im sure there MI5........or dvla..lol

Going by that, il go and steal a car, ring it, and it'l be fine and perfectly legal, because no-one will know.

[The Matt]

Hmm, I guess you could always do it the proper way and ask to buy the rolling shell back off them, then reapply for the V5 for said vehicle. The vehicle will actually carry an ID on the shell, so they could apply for the ID through that I think. The actual date of first registration (June-8-1965) may not be accurately traced through that though, it may just get an age-related plate.

Besides, with it being a '65, you couldn't actually do it legally without the original shell as you can't get an OE shell for a '65 as far as I know.

[scrog]

do what ever you want mate just dont tell people on here as im sure there MI5........or dvla..lol

Going by that, il go and steal a car, ring it, and it'l be fine and perfectly legal, because no-one will know.

any on on here got a 65 if so can you pm me your address please LOL

no but seriously i been looking at the new sprint shell (think there fiberglass)
as a base for the rebuild but like i said would love to use log book
still got the front seats in my mums shed LOL

Edited by scrog, 28 May 2008 - 06:56 PM.

[The Matt]

And the point made above by RacingGreen is THE reason I am so against this whole ringing culture that's so popular on the mini scene.

[Hannioli]

HI, I might be wrong but I am pretty sure you do still have to sorn your reg.

As for VIN plates, you can order them from a couple of places. PM me if you want to know where and I will dig out the name of the place I got mine done, there are only a few places in the country that are allowed to make VIN plates.

my usernames E.L.M.O, I couldnt be bothered to log off the gfs and sign in again.

[JetBLICK]

Nowt wrong with 'ringing' car imo, as long as your not intending to then sell the car as something its not, or its a stolen car.

The majority of the 'works' rally and race cars are ringers. Back in the day it was fairly common, who are we to stand in the way of a mini tradition

Theres very little actually stamped onto a mini shell to identify it, the dvla would have a hard time proving you've ringed your car, so long as you put the right year shell on the correct logbook. Or even if you re-shell the car with a heratige shell, all you need is something as simple as the old engine number rivited to your new engine. Engine numbers, unlike vin's arnt as well documented, they're more of just a referance to tell you what the engine is. You can legally change it to 'mystupidheap' if you like. But if you have the original engine number of your car, then you can get one stamped up and stick it on ur motor in the new car.

[The Matt]

But, but, oh I give up! You're telling someone how to ring a car!

I seriously hope that nobody on here gets their mini stolen and it ends up being put back on the road on new VIN plates and engine numbers.

Of course there's something wrong with ringing a vehicle, it's illegal!

[JetBLICK]

lol, sorry

There are far easier ways to get rid of stolen cars tho, if you ring a stolen car in this country, with such a vibrant mini scene, chances are it ent gonna get far without someone noticing. What you want to do is sell your stolen car to Japan. I was having this discussion with a friend a while ago, the reason there are so many logbooks left with no shells (aside from tinworm) is because when you send a car to japan you dont have to send the logbook, this has often resulted in many versions of the same car, i think he said the record was 6 cars with the same reg

[Shifty]

The problem here is that it's so commonplace that it almost seen as acceptable.

I for one detest the magazine log book specials, "I had to use a new shell, the old one was too far gone"

Rubbish, sell the car to someone who has the skills to restore it and find one more suited to their needs!!

Make me angry when I see a "genuine" cooper or early mini(with new heritige shell,newton interior,med lump)

Grrrrrrrrr

[The Matt]

ive bought this up many a time on here about ringing and so on. Im forever geting grief about my 64 plate on a newer internal hinged shell. back in the day it was common to reshell with a later unregistered shell. o and mine wasnt reshelled in 79, it was 69 sorry! told a fib there, the paperwork says 69. i got confused somewhere.
but yes, ringing is ringing although if you hadnt bought it up, no-one would have been any the wiser when you had your old plate on your new shell.

Don't want to be pedantic, but your shell is a mid-late 80's one, so I'd think it was reshelled later than '69.

That kinda backs up my whole argument, people are being sold stuff that's not what they think it is, all because of people ringing vehicles. Also (further backing up my point) you've got several photos on a very popular mini website, showing the Reg. number on the vehicle. This is why it's all wrong. I'm not for 1 minute saying that you've done the ringing, or been party to it. But it really does highlight the point!

[dave20046]

The problem here is that it's so commonplace that it almost seen as acceptable.

I for one detest the magazine log book specials, "I had to use a new shell, the old one was too far gone"

Rubbish, sell the car to someone who has the skills to restore it and find one more suited to their needs!!

Make me angry when I see a "genuine" cooper or early mini(with new heritige shell,newton interior,med lump)

Grrrrrrrrr

I was talking to a bloke the other day that obiously had a mark 4 shelled mini that was with the old fashioned plates and he said it was down as a 1967 in the logbook. Is there anyway that could be possible (legally?)

[Geehawk]

The problem here is that it's so commonplace that it almost seen as acceptable.

I for one detest the magazine log book specials, "I had to use a new shell, the old one was too far gone"

Rubbish, sell the car to someone who has the skills to restore it and find one more suited to their needs!!

Make me angry when I see a "genuine" cooper or early mini(with new heritige shell,newton interior,med lump)

Grrrrrrrrr

I was talking to a bloke the other day that obiously had a mark 4 shelled mini that was with the old fashioned plates and he said it was down as a 1967 in the logbook. Is there anyway that could be possible (legally?)

Yes if it was reshelled with a brand new un registered shell, using the running gear of the old car.

Note thats a new unregistered shell not one from another car that happens to be in better nick.

[dave20046]

The problem here is that it's so commonplace that it almost seen as acceptable.

I for one detest the magazine log book specials, "I had to use a new shell, the old one was too far gone"

Rubbish, sell the car to someone who has the skills to restore it and find one more suited to their needs!!

Make me angry when I see a "genuine" cooper or early mini(with new heritige shell,newton interior,med lump)

Grrrrrrrrr

I was talking to a bloke the other day that obiously had a mark 4 shelled mini that was with the old fashioned plates and he said it was down as a 1967 in the logbook. Is there anyway that could be possible (legally?)

Yes if it was reshelled with a brand new un registered shell, using the running gear of the old car.

Note thats a new unregistered shell not one from another car that happens to be in better nick.

Well he has plans to put a 1380 in it now so I guess that means the running gear will have changed so it'll definitely be illegal if it wasn't before!?

[The Matt]

Not hinting at anything, merely stating that the shell is a mid-late 1980's shell. Simple as that.

[The Matt]

Well, I'm not gonna carry on this argument as I CBA. This thread was supposed to be about old log books and I steered it off track, sorry. I was trying to highlight a point about why the whole reshelling thing was bad as it caught people out, but never mind.