Honestly im not trying to be funny when was this?
Edited by liirge, 26 September 2009 - 02:18 AM.
Posted 26 September 2009 - 02:16 AM
Edited by liirge, 26 September 2009 - 02:18 AM.
Posted 26 September 2009 - 02:20 AM
Who pointed that out? dont remember?
Posted 26 September 2009 - 02:22 AM
Edited by liirge, 26 September 2009 - 02:45 AM.
Posted 26 September 2009 - 04:35 AM
Was this tonight then? i honestly must of missed this whole thing as much as your not going to believe me i got rid of that particular phrase at the start for another reason late last night\ early hours today, i would like to see the thread though! lol
it clearly never happened...Good one mini7boy
EDIT
i dont remember because no one did i just searched, so you kind of messed that one up a little
DONT POST ANY MORE IF HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE SUBJECT...I SAID THIS BACK ON THE LAST PAGE, (I do admit to being baited in a little, but i feel mini7boys behaviour to be rather random, as i said nothing bad to him)
Edited by mini7boy, 26 September 2009 - 04:37 AM.
Posted 26 September 2009 - 08:44 AM
Posted 26 September 2009 - 09:40 AM
Liirge,No need to start making it personal...may i remind you on a regular basis your "30 years of experience" is called into question especially your pontifications based on these tests you have done, but lets not turn this into a cat fight.The extra capacity came from recessing the valves and thinning the valve seat margins down a little. Otherwise the combustion chambers and rest of head was untouched, so no - you are not correct in that way. This would be a heap easier if you could see the article first. Otherwise we are likely to be re-producing the whole thing that was covered across two magazine issues here. The cost of recessing the valves is nowhere near as costly as pocketing a block. Not even close.
On the 295 head front - if you are getting them in good working order that does not need any re-conditioning for £100 - that's pretty good. You should buy 'em up and store them/sell 'em on. All the ones I've seen or had through my hands in the past decade or more have required full re-furb, which sensibly includes converting for lead free fuel. Just a standard lead free converted re-furbed head is around £150...
As for your opinion - it is just that. And my opinion is just that, based on all the testing I've done over some 30 years. I am not trying to be offensive, but I do not know who you are or your experience as I have not been on this forum for a very long time - just offering up my shot on the deal. KC
On the unleaded deal there aren't that many 940 Heads that are unleaded, you say it, as if it was nearly all of them are unleaded...there not.
And once again...no one who has done the valve recession bodge, can quote me a price.
And David Vizard seems to agree with me on where the torque comes in on a 295...
Posted 26 September 2009 - 09:43 AM
Posted 26 September 2009 - 10:15 AM
Posted 26 September 2009 - 10:26 AM
I am American, but it has no bearing on this issue. The slang usage you cite may be widely used, but it is wrong.it looks like somebody needs to use the spelling checker more often. Either that or a good dictionary.
On the "Stages of Tune" page on cylinder heads, the author obviously doesn't know the difference between the words "breath" and "breathe".
The author meant to use the word "breathe". You'll have to trust me on that.
Are you american or british? Its a common slang to say 'to breath' its not the first time i see that. Whats the matter with that?
It's all very simple. As shown in the definitions of "breath" and "breathe" shown at the links below, the word "breath" is a noun and the word "breathe" is a verb.
In the text that follows, the author was exhorting a woman "to breathe" which is a classic usage of a verb
If the woman followed his command to "breathe" she would have taken a "breath".
In the sentence which follows, starting with the words "Modifying the cylinder....." , the word "breath" is also incorrect because in saying "getting it to breath better", the words "to breath"
are another classic usage of a verb, so the correct word is "breathe" as in "getting it to breathE better"
The text I was commenting on was the following:
Cylinder Heads - Breath madam! Breath!!!
Modifying the cylinder head is all about getting it to breath better.
http://www.merriam-w...tionary/breathe
http://www.merriam-w...ctionary/breath
Posted 26 September 2009 - 10:38 AM
Liirge,No need to start making it personal...may i remind you on a regular basis your "30 years of experience" is called into question especially your pontifications based on these tests you have done, but lets not turn this into a cat fight.The extra capacity came from recessing the valves and thinning the valve seat margins down a little. Otherwise the combustion chambers and rest of head was untouched, so no - you are not correct in that way. This would be a heap easier if you could see the article first. Otherwise we are likely to be re-producing the whole thing that was covered across two magazine issues here. The cost of recessing the valves is nowhere near as costly as pocketing a block. Not even close.
On the 295 head front - if you are getting them in good working order that does not need any re-conditioning for £100 - that's pretty good. You should buy 'em up and store them/sell 'em on. All the ones I've seen or had through my hands in the past decade or more have required full re-furb, which sensibly includes converting for lead free fuel. Just a standard lead free converted re-furbed head is around £150...
As for your opinion - it is just that. And my opinion is just that, based on all the testing I've done over some 30 years. I am not trying to be offensive, but I do not know who you are or your experience as I have not been on this forum for a very long time - just offering up my shot on the deal. KC
On the unleaded deal there aren't that many 940 Heads that are unleaded, you say it, as if it was nearly all of them are unleaded...there not.
And once again...no one who has done the valve recession bodge, can quote me a price.
And David Vizard seems to agree with me on where the torque comes in on a 295...
I just love the way that you can just blithely insult Calver and his expertise when you have next to no experience while he has been working on Mini engines for a living for more years than you have been alive.
You're absolutely laughable.
When you state "No i haven't got quotes to recess valves, simply because i dont believe its the way it should be done and have never entertained the idea on any of the engines i have built." you display the height of arrogance in dismissing Calver's idea of recessing the valves on a 940 so as to make it unnecessary to pocket the block. His method works perfectly well as demonstrated by the performance of the engine built in the article in the Mini Expert magazine.
You're so typical of Calver's detractors on this forum. You all act like you've never read any of the hundreds of magazine articles he has written over the years and then, after displaying your own ignorance about the A-series, you mock Calver and his work. If you had read even some of his articles, you'd know that he takes a logical and scientific approach to his work and explains it so that even relative novices can understand it. But you'd have us believe that you know better than he does. Based upon WHAT? Where is your proof of your opinions? Where are your dyno results?
I pity anyone who takes your advice on this forum. You and Tony(aka Nightrain) are just so typical of what can be found on any Mini forum. You spend your time taking cheap shots at people who are proven experts in A-series tuning and then shower the forum users with your collected wisdom that is utterly lacking in proof or logic to support it. The fact is that you and your ilk are merely envious. Envious of those who have put in the time, experimented with different approaches and then tested their ideas on a dyno or flowbench. You and your pals have done none of this. Your opinions are little better than pubtalk, completely unsubstantiated.
You have a lot to be humble about, Liirge. It's way past time that you and your pal Tony the Nightrain showed some respect for those who have proven that they know far more about the A-series than you ever will.
Edited by Nightrain, 26 September 2009 - 10:39 AM.
Posted 26 September 2009 - 11:49 AM
I shall no longer Dignify this shambles of a thread with a reply,
Posted 26 September 2009 - 11:53 AM
Edited by shorty, 26 September 2009 - 11:54 AM.
Posted 26 September 2009 - 11:55 AM
Edited by shiftyseamus, 26 September 2009 - 11:59 AM.
Posted 26 September 2009 - 12:01 PM
Posted 26 September 2009 - 12:06 PM
Liirge,No need to start making it personal...may i remind you on a regular basis your "30 years of experience" is called into question especially your pontifications based on these tests you have done, but lets not turn this into a cat fight.The extra capacity came from recessing the valves and thinning the valve seat margins down a little. Otherwise the combustion chambers and rest of head was untouched, so no - you are not correct in that way. This would be a heap easier if you could see the article first. Otherwise we are likely to be re-producing the whole thing that was covered across two magazine issues here. The cost of recessing the valves is nowhere near as costly as pocketing a block. Not even close.
On the 295 head front - if you are getting them in good working order that does not need any re-conditioning for £100 - that's pretty good. You should buy 'em up and store them/sell 'em on. All the ones I've seen or had through my hands in the past decade or more have required full re-furb, which sensibly includes converting for lead free fuel. Just a standard lead free converted re-furbed head is around £150...
As for your opinion - it is just that. And my opinion is just that, based on all the testing I've done over some 30 years. I am not trying to be offensive, but I do not know who you are or your experience as I have not been on this forum for a very long time - just offering up my shot on the deal. KC
On the unleaded deal there aren't that many 940 Heads that are unleaded, you say it, as if it was nearly all of them are unleaded...there not.
And once again...no one who has done the valve recession bodge, can quote me a price.
And David Vizard seems to agree with me on where the torque comes in on a 295...
I just love the way that you can just blithely insult Calver and his expertise when you have next to no experience while he has been working on Mini engines for a living for more years than you have been alive.
You're absolutely laughable.
When you state "No i haven't got quotes to recess valves, simply because i dont believe its the way it should be done and have never entertained the idea on any of the engines i have built." you display the height of arrogance in dismissing Calver's idea of recessing the valves on a 940 so as to make it unnecessary to pocket the block. His method works perfectly well as demonstrated by the performance of the engine built in the article in the Mini Expert magazine.
You're so typical of Calver's detractors on this forum. You all act like you've never read any of the hundreds of magazine articles he has written over the years and then, after displaying your own ignorance about the A-series, you mock Calver and his work. If you had read even some of his articles, you'd know that he takes a logical and scientific approach to his work and explains it so that even relative novices can understand it. But you'd have us believe that you know better than he does. Based upon WHAT? Where is your proof of your opinions? Where are your dyno results?
I pity anyone who takes your advice on this forum. You and Tony(aka Nightrain) are just so typical of what can be found on any Mini forum. You spend your time taking cheap shots at people who are proven experts in A-series tuning and then shower the forum users with your collected wisdom that is utterly lacking in proof or logic to support it. The fact is that you and your ilk are merely envious. Envious of those who have put in the time, experimented with different approaches and then tested their ideas on a dyno or flowbench. You and your pals have done none of this. Your opinions are little better than pubtalk, completely unsubstantiated.
You have a lot to be humble about, Liirge. It's way past time that you and your pal Tony the Nightrain showed some respect for those who have proven that they know far more about the A-series than you ever will.
Slightly UNTRUE ! If as you suggest he tested everything how come he's the only one that still reckons the special V2 core rad is 33% more efficient than a four core !!!
After been told the 4 cores wasn't been produced anymore, because the New Super Special 2 core was 33% more efficient. I said no thanks I'll take a standard rad, to which calvers response was 'if it isn't better than your 4 core I keith calver will give you your money back'.
Took all of a week for you to go back on your word, when I returned to spares I was told it's because of the spotlights I had fitted. So they where removed, which made FA of a difference. Next time I came for my money back, it was the set up of the engine. So I asked where you would suggest, Dennis Vessay motorsport was your answer. So off I went again, I mean afterall this was Keith Calver Mini Expert I was talking too.
Booked in at vessays, Dennis spent a full afternoon getting it spot on. But still it was running too hot. Guess what your dyno operator of choice said ?
You'd be better off with a 4 core !!! Yet you still wouldn't give me my money back !!!
Then the best bit of all was despite what you, keith calver had said minispares put the 4 core back into production !!!
I bought a 4 core and ALL the overheating problems disappeared !!!
So don't try and tell me you test everything first !
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