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[xBR4DLEY]

I am looking to buy a new scuttle as mine has rusted very badly in certain places








So if I buy a genuine scuttle with the lip up how will this be welded on etc?
Cheers

[Shifty]

You need something to weld the new scuttle onto first!!

You can see daylight though it, that means the inner flitch is shot as well.

The window lip that the scuttle attaches to will also need considerable work as well.

[xBR4DLEY]

You need something to weld the new scuttle onto first!!

You can see daylight though it, that means the inner flitch is shot as well.

The window lip that the scuttle attaches to will also need considerable work as well.

Yeah it only has that hole because my dad decided to poke it lol
Yeah the flitch is shot but will be getting one and welding that on how does that go on?
Could the window lip be patched?

[Dan]

Replacing a flitch properly is heavy going. When Minis are assembled, welding the flitch to the bulkhead is pretty much the first joint made so you have to go through a lot of other panels to get to it. Good luck.

[Shifty]

You may hate me for saying this, but do you really know what your taking on with this car? Its a pretty much a basket case and will need a shed load more work than I think you realise.

I've seen the pictures and you're looking at a panel bill of £700-£1000 just to get it sound and solid again, not to mention the hundreds of hours welding.

It may be better to find a less ripe car to restore.

Edited by shiftyseamus, 18 October 2009 - 09:54 PM.

[mk1leg]

You can get genuine panels from here....................

http://www.bmh-ltd.com/

.....................good luck...................

[xBR4DLEY]

You may hate me for saying this, but do you really know what your taking on with this car? Its a pretty much a basket case and will need a shed load more work than I think you realise.

I've seen the pictures and you're looking at a panel bill of £700-£1000 just to get it sound and solid again, not to mention the hundreds of hours welding.

It may be better to find a less ripe car to restore.

Well yeah I suppose but I dont know how you work it out at £700
Its not like I need it done any time soon so hundreds of hours are ok

[xBR4DLEY]

You can get genuine panels from here....................

http://www.bmh-ltd.com/

.....................good luck...................

Cheers mate

[Shifty]

You may hate me for saying this, but do you really know what your taking on with this car? Its a pretty much a basket case and will need a shed load more work than I think you realise.

I've seen the pictures and you're looking at a panel bill of £700-£1000 just to get it sound and solid again, not to mention the hundreds of hours welding.

It may be better to find a less ripe car to restore.

Well yeah I suppose but I dont know how you work it out at £700
Its not like I need it done any time soon so hundreds of hours are ok

Trust me, I ve done enough of em to know how much they cost!!

Pair of floors - £100x2
scuttle - £100
Wings - £35x2
Front panel - £50
A-panels £10x2
Rear 1/4 £35 x2
Boot floor - £25
Lower boot hinge £75
Door steps - £15
Crossmember - £55
Valence - £10
Valence stiffeners - £15x2
Heelboard - £100
Subframe closing plates - £10x2
Inner sill stiffeners - £15x2
Door skins - £25x2
Boor floor corners - £15x2

I'm not sure how much the full flitches are, also depends on the state of the toeboard,

Thats just for starters!!

Theres also companion bins, front shock mounts and rear wheel arches.

It soon adds up.

[xBR4DLEY]

You may hate me for saying this, but do you really know what your taking on with this car? Its a pretty much a basket case and will need a shed load more work than I think you realise.

I've seen the pictures and you're looking at a panel bill of £700-£1000 just to get it sound and solid again, not to mention the hundreds of hours welding.

It may be better to find a less ripe car to restore.

Well yeah I suppose but I dont know how you work it out at £700
Its not like I need it done any time soon so hundreds of hours are ok

Trust me, I ve done enough of em to know how much they cost!!

Pair of floors - £100x2 - These arent £100 I got the right front and rear and inner sill for like £30
scuttle - £100 - On minispares even an original scuttle is £30 approx
Wings - £35x2 - Dont think I need wings
Front panel - £50 - Or front panel
A-panels £10x2 - Only need one of these
Rear 1/4 £35 x2 - Dont need these??
Boot floor - £25 - Dont need this just 10" repair strip which is like £20
Lower boot hinge £75 - ?
Door steps - £15 - ?
Crossmember - £55 - Can patch this
Valence - £10 - Yeah need this
Valence stiffeners - £15x2 - ?
Heelboard - £100 - ??????
Subframe closing plates - £10x2 - ????????
Inner sill stiffeners - £15x2 - ?????
Door skins - £25x2 - Need one of these
Boor floor corners - £15x2 - Need these but im sure the are cheaper
Flitch panel - £10.35x2

I'm not sure how much the full flitches are, also depends on the state of the toeboard, Which Is??

Thats just for starters!!

Theres also companion bins ( Could I not plate this) , front shock mounts (??) and rear wheel arches. ( These are fine)

It soon adds up.

[Shifty]

Fair enough, believe it or not I am actually trying to help you. I've done enough cars over the years to know what it take to do a 1/2 decent job of one. Regardless of what you think of my list that is what you'll need to do decent job on the car.

[xBR4DLEY]

Fair enough, believe it or not I am actually trying to help you. I've done enough cars over the years to know what it take to do a 1/2 decent job of one. Regardless of what you think of my list that is what you'll need to do decent job on the car.

Well yeah I know you are trying to help but in some perspectives I think you are wrong
and thanks i'll just ask you next time

[onefastmoke]

I, think what shifty is trying to say is that once you start removing panels to do the repairs you have spotted, you will end up buying pretty much all the panels on the list and you also can't always get away with the cheapest panels as some fit terribly.

derusting a mini works on the iceberg theory, theres a lot more under the surface

Mini's, you gotta love em

[xBR4DLEY]

I, think what shifty is trying to say is that once you start removing panels to do the repairs you have spotted, you will end up buying pretty much all the panels on the list and you also can't always get away with the cheapest panels as some fit terribly.

derusting a mini works on the iceberg theory, theres a lot more under the surface

Mini's, you gotta love em

So far the only panels I have welded on are the front and rear drivers floor pan but when I did this I made sure I had the panels and cut them to fit.
I will cut out once I have the panels if you know what I mean
Cheers anyway mate

[miller 666]

I have a feeling your gonna end up with a mini with no stiffener panels judging by your response to shifty...