48 replies to this topic

[Midas Mk1]

Scaremongering again hahaha

[Ethel]

Vosa also said any car would be assessed on a case by case basis - you really have to decide for yourself. I do agree with Tiger that the inner wings alone are totally inadequate & it would be better to solid mount the front frame.
I personally think insurers are likely to be become a much bigger stumbling block, if they get the wind up about a possible conflict with DVLA/VOSA policy they'll take the easy option and say no.

[camp freddy]

I haven't got any front tear drop mounts, the grp front is located with sprung pins and the rear of the front
locates using the original bonnet subframe , my rear front subframe mounts are solid and I have
poly tower mounts , I do accelerate hard most of the time and my front end is still on the car..



you can see the mouning lugs on the subframe brace bars

Edited by camp freddy, 25 November 2012 - 05:57 PM.

[tiger99]

Yes, and when you are caught with that on the road, it will be pass an IVA test or have it crushed. Just because it has not failed YET does not make it either safe or legal, and it is neither. Poly top mounts and solid rears is a recipe for certain fatigue cracking, but as you have butchered the structure completely, it may happen in unusual places.

[R1mini]

Yes, and when you are caught with that on the road, it will be pass an IVA test or have it crushed. Just because it has not failed YET does not make it either safe or legal, and it is neither. Poly top mounts and solid rears is a recipe for certain fatigue cracking, but as you have butchered the structure completely, it may happen in unusual places.

Looks to me if the substantial tubes now support the front subframe front mounts, if this is the case then it will be more than strong enough

David

[camp freddy]

You have your own opinion which you are entitled to voice, I have had this on the road for 3yrs and it is driven
hard a lot of the time all year round , there are no signs of fatigue cracking anywhere... From my experience
of minis a lot on the road would most probably have teardrop mounts which have de-bonded rubbers as mine
were when I bought Ratty.

just a note off an IVA info site , I'll see if this is the case

1.9 When does IVA not apply?
• Agricultural or forestry tractors, their trailers and interchangeable towed machinery, together
with their systems, components and separate technical units and trailers designed and
constructed specifically to be towed by them.
• Quadricycles.
• Tracked vehicles.
• ‘Incomplete’ vehicles.
• Old vehicles (i.e. passenger cars and light goods vehicles over 10 years old and large goods
vehicles over 25 years old).
IVA does not apply but is optional for the following :
• Vehicles designed and constructed for use principally on construction sites or in quarries, port
or airport facilities.
• Vehicles designed and constructed for use by the armed services, civil defence, fire services
and forces responsible for

[camp freddy]

You have your own opinion which you are entitled to voice, I have had this on the road for 3yrs and it is driven
hard a lot of the time all year round , there are no signs of fatigue cracking anywhere... From my experience
of minis a lot on the road would most probably have teardrop mounts which have de-bonded rubbers as mine
were when I bought Ratty.

just a note off an IVA info site , I'll see if this is the case

1.9 When does IVA not apply?
• Agricultural or forestry tractors, their trailers and interchangeable towed machinery, together
with their systems, components and separate technical units and trailers designed and
constructed specifically to be towed by them.
• Quadricycles.
• Tracked vehicles.
• ‘Incomplete’ vehicles.
• Old vehicles (i.e. passenger cars and light goods vehicles over 10 years old and large goods
vehicles over 25 years old).
IVA does not apply but is optional for the following :
• Vehicles designed and constructed for use principally on construction sites or in quarries, port
or airport facilities.
• Vehicles designed and constructed for use by the armed services, civil defence, fire services
and forces responsible for

mines over ten yrs old , so if this is right i'm ok

[camp freddy]

Seen this section aswell , Seems a bit contradictory and miss-leading, could fall into either catagory


Part 6: Radically altered vehicles


Your vehicle must comply with the Road Vehicle (Construction and Use) Regulations 1986 (as amended) if you use it on the road.
Radically altered vehicles are vehicles that have been altered from their original specification, but aren’t kit conversions

[charie t]

You have your own opinion which you are entitled to voice, I have had this on the road for 3yrs and it is driven
hard a lot of the time all year round , there are no signs of fatigue cracking anywhere... From my experience
of minis a lot on the road would most probably have teardrop mounts which have de-bonded rubbers as mine
were when I bought Ratty.

just a note off an IVA info site , I'll see if this is the case

1.9 When does IVA not apply?
• Agricultural or forestry tractors, their trailers and interchangeable towed machinery, together
with their systems, components and separate technical units and trailers designed and
constructed specifically to be towed by them.
• Quadricycles.
• Tracked vehicles.
• ‘Incomplete’ vehicles.
• Old vehicles (i.e. passenger cars and light goods vehicles over 10 years old and large goods
vehicles over 25 years old).
IVA does not apply but is optional for the following :
• Vehicles designed and constructed for use principally on construction sites or in quarries, port
or airport facilities.
• Vehicles designed and constructed for use by the armed services, civil defence, fire services
and forces responsible for

mines over ten yrs old , so if this is right i'm ok

All mini's are over 10 years old
Did it give date as to where 10 years old starts from?

[camp freddy]

You have your own opinion which you are entitled to voice, I have had this on the road for 3yrs and it is driven
hard a lot of the time all year round , there are no signs of fatigue cracking anywhere... From my experience
of minis a lot on the road would most probably have teardrop mounts which have de-bonded rubbers as mine
were when I bought Ratty.

just a note off an IVA info site , I'll see if this is the case

1.9 When does IVA not apply?
• Agricultural or forestry tractors, their trailers and interchangeable towed machinery, together
with their systems, components and separate technical units and trailers designed and
constructed specifically to be towed by them.
• Quadricycles.
• Tracked vehicles.
• ‘Incomplete’ vehicles.
• Old vehicles (i.e. passenger cars and light goods vehicles over 10 years old and large goods
vehicles over 25 years old).
IVA does not apply but is optional for the following :
• Vehicles designed and constructed for use principally on construction sites or in quarries, port
or airport facilities.
• Vehicles designed and constructed for use by the armed services, civil defence, fire services
and forces responsible for

mines over ten yrs old , so if this is right i'm ok

All mini's are over 10 years old
Did it give date as to where 10 years old starts from?

You have your own opinion which you are entitled to voice, I have had this on the road for 3yrs and it is driven
hard a lot of the time all year round , there are no signs of fatigue cracking anywhere... From my experience
of minis a lot on the road would most probably have teardrop mounts which have de-bonded rubbers as mine
were when I bought Ratty.

just a note off an IVA info site , I'll see if this is the case

1.9 When does IVA not apply?
• Agricultural or forestry tractors, their trailers and interchangeable towed machinery, together
with their systems, components and separate technical units and trailers designed and
constructed specifically to be towed by them.
• Quadricycles.
• Tracked vehicles.
• ‘Incomplete’ vehicles.
• Old vehicles (i.e. passenger cars and light goods vehicles over 10 years old and large goods
vehicles over 25 years old).
IVA does not apply but is optional for the following :
• Vehicles designed and constructed for use principally on construction sites or in quarries, port
or airport facilities.
• Vehicles designed and constructed for use by the armed services, civil defence, fire services
and forces responsible for

mines over ten yrs old , so if this is right i'm ok

All mini's are over 10 years old
Did it give date as to where 10 years old starts from?

Can't see , I assume it's from the time of application ....

[Bungle]

just gone through this on the other topic

your modified mini looses it's registration by failing the 8 points system if it's not registered and it's not the same car it's a new car

new car's are less than 10 years old

if you modified it more than 10 years ago and did it right you would of passed a SVA test and don't need the newer iva test

[conlad]

I bet you at least 80% of people who fit flip fronts don't ring up VOSA and get it checked.

If its professionally done then I can't see a problem and as camp Freddy points out all minis are over 10 years old anyway

Every bloody thread now we see 'Woop Woop get VOSA to check your new wheels they look wrong' its very boring and insults peoples intelligence

[Chance]

I bet you at least 80% of people who fit flip fronts don't ring up VOSA and get it checked.

If its professionally done then I can't see a problem and as camp Freddy points out all minis are over 10 years old anyway

Every bloody thread now we see 'Woop Woop get VOSA to check your new wheels they look wrong' its very boring and insults peoples intelligence

Woop woop
Sound of the po-lice



Sorry

[conlad]

I bet you at least 80% of people who fit flip fronts don't ring up VOSA and get it checked.

If its professionally done then I can't see a problem and as camp Freddy points out all minis are over 10 years old anyway

Every bloody thread now we see 'Woop Woop get VOSA to check your new wheels they look wrong' its very boring and insults peoples intelligence

Woop woop
Sound of the po-lice



Sorry

That song did come into my head when I wrote it! Hahaha WOOP WOOP THATS THE SOUND OF THE BEAST!

[Sam Walters]

One of mine went though a VIC test without inner wings or a welded front.

If they wanted to flag it for these issues that would be where they would do it.