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[Brams96]

This is cool, it could be used for a fuel source for cars & could be used for welding/cutting etc

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[LESTA MINI]

my grandad was telling me that when he owned a mini way bk, that because he used to get his fuel from the Pits, it used to cost him less than £1 to fill a tank.

and on another note i got more fuel that it cost yesterday as i used my shell fuel vouchers that my dads been saving up for me on his 4x4.

[reallybig]

BP petrol

129.9

Portsmouth

[minidream94]

i truely think that H2O power is the way forward in terms of power for vehicles. I mean its a never going to run out and like the bloke up there said, he can go 100 miles on 4 ounces of water, so if one of you maths people can work out how many miles that would be on a 10 gallon tank and let us know, id appreciate it

[Scallywag630]

i truely think that H2O power is the way forward in terms of power for vehicles. I mean its a never going to run out and like the bloke up there said, he can go 100 miles on 4 ounces of water, so if one of you maths people can work out how many miles that would be on a 10 gallon tank and let us know, id appreciate it

I beleive this equates to 500miles per pint...4000miles per gallon....40,000 for a 10 gallon tank!

[minidream94]

hmmm sound interesting

Thats like to australia and back and around england

[Brams96]

And the best thing about it is the by product is . . . water! So it doesn't really waste anything. Imagine those of us who only drive 5000 miles a year in our minis would only have to fill up every 6 years or so!! Sweet.

Edited by Brams96, 11 January 2011 - 08:35 PM.

[maggies_minder]

if the only by product is water then why doesnt the exhaust go straight back to the tank or even the engine.

what sort of performance figures will a stage 1 exhaust give you when your running on water??

[Scallywag630]

And the best thing about it is the by product is . . . water! So it doesn't really waste anything. Imagine those of us who only drive 5000 miles a year in our minis would only have to fill up every 6 years or so!! Sweet.

Just think what the water will do to the tank......rust!

[minidream94]

thats why you have a special tank out of carbon fibre or something that doesnt rust

[Boycie]

My Range Rover V8 does 8-10mpg round town. Looks like I may have to revert back to the 35 year-old Mini soon

[Dan]

Somehow this has managed to disolve into the worst pseudo science thread since the plane on the conveyor. At least 3 people have suggested some form of perpetual motion.

[Burnard]

Somehow this has managed to disolve into the worst pseudo science thread since the plane on the conveyor. At least 3 people have suggested some form of perpetual motion.

Some of you really should read a bit more before posting!

Oh and you get hydrogen from water (any water incidentally) by passing a SHEDLOAD of electricity through it. Electricity from a coal power station. There are also other sources of hydrogen of course. Hydrogen fuel cells do not run on water, they run on hydrogen and oxygen. You can't just put the water from the exhaust back into the fuel tank, BECAUSE THEY DON'T RUN ON WATER. Energy is released when the hydrogen and oxygen combine, whether they do that through combustion or through a platinum catalyst. To get them apart again, a similar amount of energy has to be put in. You can't just create energy, as most of us learn at age 13. Let's drop all the talk about water fuelled cars and travelling so far on so many ounces of water, after all most of the published claims involving these vehicles and their patents have turned out to be related to investment fraudsters trying to con mugs out of development funds. Water is very stable, it doen's make a good fuel.

I was waiting for you to explain it properly

I came up with an idea a while ago, but quickly realised it would last about 10 feet, if that before running out of juice.

Basicly route the exhaust into a tank, with the electrodes to split the H and O and run these to two tanks, then to the engine.
Power the electrodes off battery and regenerative energy.

Does anyone know if the energy needed to separate H and O is more or less than the energy create when they react? im guessing its more, if not equal

Edited by Burnard, 11 January 2011 - 10:09 PM.

[minidream94]

so how does that honda concept work then? the one they had on top gear?

this one

http://world.honda.com/FuelCell/

Edited by minidream94, 11 January 2011 - 10:13 PM.

[maggies_minder]

if the only by product is water then why doesnt the exhaust go straight back to the tank or even the engine.

what sort of performance figures will a stage 1 exhaust give you when your running on water??

this was a joke hence the mentioning of a stage 1.

note to self always add a tonne of at the end of each post.