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Posted 19 April 2016 - 01:27 PM

What a cracking job, this has come along well :)



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Posted 08 May 2016 - 01:31 PM

Fantastic project!! My 3G is trashed too! Haha!
Love the random green paint!

 

What a cracking job, this has come along well :)

 

Thanks so much guys, glad you're enjoying the thread.  :-)

 

Well now, it's been quite a while since we've had an update hasn't it... fear not, I haven't been ignoring the Mini, far from it in fact. Back in January I decided to give myself a deadline and went ahead and bought one of these...

 

26264119293_241d831c5c_b.jpg2016-05-07_02-21-46 by Sven Cumner, on Flickr

 

So, with 2 weeks to go, I can proudly say she's all back together, MOT'd, taxed, and insured! I actually got it MOT'd in mid-April as I decided to do that first before painting it.

 

I can honestly say I hate the cosmetic side of bodywork. Welding and grinding and fabricating is great fun, but when it comes to dealing with dents, filler, sanding, making panels flat... I really don't enjoy it. I spent about 6 weeks trying my hardest to smooth out the rear quarter panels around my repairs, just putting on filler, sanding it off, more filler, more sanding, etc. etc. I eventually gave up on it and decided I'd rather have a lumpy red car I can drive now as opposed to a nicely finished car after another million years of sanding filler. Even after all that I messed a few things up on the paint job and it came out worse than I'd hoped, but I've gone past the point of being overly worried about cosmetics now and I just want to drive it instead!

 

I took a few pictures along my hateful englightening journey of getting the car painted, so here they are, along with a few about getting it ready for the MOT.

 

After going over the car, I found it needed new steering rack gaiters and new knuckle joints as the rubbers had perished completely after sitting around in the garage for less than 3 years. So over a couple of weekends (in between sanding filler) I swapped the gaiters and joints over for some new bits.

 

26834475836_045d567cef_b.jpgIMG_0303 by Sven Cumner, on Flickr

 

26262814674_899a5a2b9c_b.jpgIMG_0308 by Sven Cumner, on Flickr

 

Ahh, filler...

 

26595283890_fea1cc0fcc_b.jpgIMG_0304 by Sven Cumner, on Flickr

 

Here's the car almost back together for the MOT

 

26263978133_16d1f0067b_b.jpgIMG_0305 by Sven Cumner, on Flickr

 

Populated the boot again.

 

26262820954_1449f7dc93_b.jpgIMG_0306 by Sven Cumner, on Flickr

 

26262817854_b1cb5ede42_b.jpgIMG_0307 by Sven Cumner, on Flickr

 

Not sure if I mentioned it before, but I rattle canned everything I'd repaired on the insides, so that's all of the boot floor edge I replaced and all the bits on the floor pans in the cabin.

 

Ready for an MOT.

 

26262808354_f42b2837ee_b.jpgIMG_0310 by Sven Cumner, on Flickr

 

Threw a bit of primer on things for the MOT, just in case it got rained on... which it did in the end!

 

26834439716_e616d951a9_b.jpgIMG_0312 by Sven Cumner, on Flickr

 

It passed the MOT no problems  :thumbsup: So I then cleared out the garage and got started on the paintwork.

 

First thing I wanted to do was put the stonechip on the undersides. Had a bit of a mess to sort out/cover up on the drivers side from what I repaired a few years back and what I'd done at the end of last summer when I started all this work.

 

26834432996_a25a9250b9_b.jpgIMG_0314 by Sven Cumner, on Flickr

 

26595253130_57f6f39a16_b.jpgIMG_0315 by Sven Cumner, on Flickr

 

Masked things up and primered.

 

26834426536_15209009e6_b.jpgIMG_0316 by Sven Cumner, on Flickr

 

26800496241_493be5d3bf_b.jpgIMG_0317 by Sven Cumner, on Flickr

 

Then I sprayed on some stonechip with a Schutz gun... 

 

26868249945_569f3f1633_b.jpgIMG_0318 by Sven Cumner, on Flickr

 

...and very quickly learnt all about paint reactions and how cellulose paint/stonechip won't go over acrylic paint (Halfords rattle cans).

 

26774588952_7dbb120c8f_b.jpgIMG_0319 by Sven Cumner, on Flickr

 

26800485551_1d5dfcfdf7_b.jpgIMG_0320 by Sven Cumner, on Flickr

 

26263931793_72ed2c4602_b.jpgIMG_0321 by Sven Cumner, on Flickr

 

So I gave up on that and decided to carry on stripping the car and sand some more filler.

 

26262766214_e8b1789379_b.jpgIMG_0324 by Sven Cumner, on Flickr

 

As I mentioned before, I had to give up on the filler work in the end as I just couldn't quite get it perfect, but I got to a stage where I was satisfied with it and then I moved on to test fit the arches so i could drill mounting holes in the new bits of metal I'd welded in.

 

26595202180_a5e86c2caa_b.jpgIMG_0328 by Sven Cumner

 

Now I had the car basically ready to paint, bar a bit of stopper and final finishing in a few areas, so I moved on to building my DIY spraybooth out of PVC tubing, sandwich bag plastic, and duct tape.

 

26774540822_863e338c3d_b.jpgIMG_0329 by Sven Cumner, on Flickr

 

I had a big 20" fan at the back of the booth at the top, blowing through a filter and then I just left the bottom edges at the front of the booth open so it blew air across and down over the car.

 

26263909913_7259bd4607_b.jpgIMG_0330 by Sven Cumner, on Flickr

 

26834363136_0968e613bd_b.jpgIMG_0331 by Sven Cumner, on Flickr

 

That box in the middle was to support the middle beam as it wasn't very sturdy. I was only painting the rear bottom half of the car, everything below the windows and behind the doors basically.

 

26595188240_6b2870405b_b.jpgIMG_0332 by Sven Cumner, on Flickr

 

That's where the air came out down the front there.

 

26262733354_9a6673bc4b_b.jpgIMG_0333 by Sven Cumner, on Flickr

 

Now that I've had some experience painting with cellulose, I wish I'd never used Halfords rattle cans for the primer over the filler whilst I was going along. I decided to barcoat over the acrylic paint to stop any reactions, so here's the car covered in barcoat and with the stonechip layer done on the undersides. For those that don't know, (I didn't until I started researching this stuff whilst doing this paint job) cellulose will react very badly with certain types of paint: for example, it will basically act as paint stripper and just soften and melt acrylic paint, like what's in the Halfords cans. So this "Barcoat" stuff is an alcohol based paint that seals anything underneath it and won't react with the Cellulose paint on top. It's kind of a bodge to allow you to avoid stripping the rattle can paint off and redoing it properly, but hey... it kinda worked for me.

 

26834352826_6cf7bcba84_b.jpgIMG_0334 by Sven Cumner, on Flickr

 

26774513732_f90afbe9ca_b.jpgIMG_0335 by Sven Cumner, on Flickr

 

This idea of using barcoat did kind of work, however I found that you HAVE to ignore the instructions on the tin when it tells you to put only one thin coat on. That thin coat wasn't enough and I still had reactions through the barcoat when I sprayed the cellulose primer on. I had several areas come up with large cracks like this.

 

26262709354_53675206a7_b.jpgIMG_0337 by Sven Cumner, on Flickr

 

So I had to rub down a few areas to get rid of the cracked paint, then I sprayed on a two coats of barcoat, the second being much thicker, and that seemed to do the trick with regards to sealing the paint.

 

So another few days spraying primer and then flatting it back a couple of times and I was ready to spray it red. I was disappointed with how much orange peel I got in my final finish, and I've had a few areas come up with cracks and reactions from the bad paint underneath, but I'm not bothered enough to fix it now. I'm fed up of bodywork and painting and I just want to drive the thing - it's mostly red and looks good from a distance, good enough for me anyway!

 

26800427581_fed868b2d8_b.jpgIMG_0338 by Sven Cumner, on Flickr

 

I had a bit of residue left over from the masking tape I had a long the body lines, but that rubbed off okay with a bit of panel wipe. I know I really should've tried to blend in the join in the paintwork but I was too fed up with painting to do it properly at the end, so there's a noticeable step from the differing paint layers. You can't tell straight away as the join is on a crease anyway, so I'm happy enough with how it turned out... for now.

 

26800422881_437518dfed_b.jpgIMG_0339 by Sven Cumner, on Flickr

 

The orange peel I'm not too worried about as I know I can wet sand/polish most of it out, but I didn't expect it to be quite this bad from an HVLP gun on a compressor, I guess I just need a lot more practice! :D

 

As I was putting the car back together I injected a tonne of this in to the rear valance box sections and in to the sills. Should keep the rust at bay for another few years I hope!

 

26263873143_8d7f22aeca_b.jpgIMG_0340 by Sven Cumner, on Flickr

 

...to be continued because I have too many pictures to post again...


Edited by The Otter, 08 May 2016 - 02:21 PM.


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Posted 08 May 2016 - 01:32 PM

So after a busy few evenings putting the thing back together, I finally took it for it's first proper drive yesterday morning and then went to the pub for lunch in the afternoon. Took a few pics whilst I was there, so that's how I shall end this update. So happy to just be able to drive this thing again, it's so much fun.  :w00t:

 

26616626030_26ecc6ce3d_b.jpgDSCN0843 by Sven Cumner, on Flickr

 

26285099423_f53b319a60_b.jpgDSCN0844 by Sven Cumner, on Flickr

 

26821984941_70a72dd7d9_b.jpgDSCN0845 by Sven Cumner, on Flickr

 

26285081973_99ab653332_b.jpgDSCN0846 by Sven Cumner, on Flickr

 

26285069443_d3787d4264_b.jpgDSCN0847 by Sven Cumner, on Flickr

 

26285056923_285c322054_b.jpgDSCN0848 by Sven Cumner, on Flickr

 

26821961331_29d3301cf7_b.jpgDSCN0849 by Sven Cumner, on Flickr

 

26855782476_cfe69782f2_b.jpgDSCN0850 by Sven Cumner, on Flickr

 

26855768796_80fb18861d_b.jpgDSCN0851 by Sven Cumner, on Flickr

 

26795859642_04d73c444e_b.jpgDSCN0852 by Sven Cumner, on Flickr

 

26821936481_868fbfb653_b.jpgDSCN0853 by Sven Cumner, on Flickr

 

I'll be trying to polish the paint up next weekend I think and then I'll refit my wide Wellers and bolt the arches back on. I need to put it a bit of paint on a couple of bits on the passenger side A panel too, so I'll try and get that done this week. There's a "Cars and Coffee" meet in Redditch next Sunday morning so I'll try and get along to that and take a few more pictures with some other (hopefully) interesting cars. Then the weekend after that I have to get down to London and then Brighton, then all the way home again! Fingers crossed we make it all the way with no break downs.  :lol:

 

Cheers all  :thumbsup:


Edited by The Otter, 08 May 2016 - 02:11 PM.


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Posted 08 May 2016 - 03:11 PM

There might be a few people meeting at mine to go to cars and coffee if you're interested mate, will need to jump in with someone though as none of our 3 classics are roadworthy in one way or another 



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Posted 09 May 2016 - 05:34 AM

Looks great i need to think about making a booth style thing in my garage for when i come to paint... Where did you get your one from?



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Posted 09 May 2016 - 11:52 AM

There might be a few people meeting at mine to go to cars and coffee if you're interested mate, will need to jump in with someone though as none of our 3 classics are roadworthy in one way or another

 
Thanks for the offer but I'm meeting a friend first and heading straight there from his. Hopefully bump in to you whilst I'm there.
 

Looks great i need to think about making a booth style thing in my garage for when i come to paint... Where did you get your one from?


I bought 40m of PVC waste pipe from Wickes, along with a bunch of elbows, tees, and straight connectors to connect it all together. Think it was this stuff - http://www.wickes.co...2000mm/p/431900

Then the polythene sheeting off ebay - http://www.ebay.co.u...m/231090127678?

And a filter panel also off ebay - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/181339439836?

Then I duct taped it all together and it formed something resembling a spraybooth. :teehee:


Edited by The Otter, 09 May 2016 - 11:54 AM.


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Posted 09 May 2016 - 01:19 PM

Hey cheers for that its defo something to consider... just want somewhere that i paint not get some much crap in it. Like you said earlier it can get flattened back.



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Posted 09 May 2016 - 06:22 PM

Looking great again Sven! Nice job and love the DIY spraybooth! You've got balls brother haha



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Posted 16 May 2016 - 06:06 PM

I tried to cut and polish the paint up the other day - it didn't go as well I'd hoped. The orange peel was more pronounced than I realised and I didn't want to risk cutting back too much paint, just in case I went through to the primer. Still, it's a lot shinier than it was!

 

Here's a couple of dingy garage pictures on the night I finished it.

 

27054772855_264df10364_b.jpgIMG_0342 by Sven Cumner, on Flickr

 

As you can see, lots of orange peel still, but I'm satisfied for now.

 

27054762975_e4b470be87_b.jpgIMG_0343 by Sven Cumner, on Flickr

 

I was too excited to put my big wheels and arches back on, so I cracked on into the night to get that done.

 

27054752365_b3709a0c72_b.jpgIMG_0344 by Sven Cumner, on Flickr

 

Pushed it outside the next morning to see what the suspension was like. For some reason, the ride height had changed and was lower on the right side of the car than it should've been. I did the opposite-to-sensible thing and dropped the rear left as that seemed the most out - and because my new centre exit exhaust gave me nice easy access to the HiLo!

 

26451193513_2cc4f7c949_b.jpgIMG_0345 by Sven Cumner, on Flickr

 

It looked damn good if you ask me...

 

27021779026_b399c3097c_b.jpgIMG_0346 by Sven Cumner, on Flickr

 

But unfortunately I almost ripped a rear wheel arch completely off on the test drive, so I had to raise it again! I raised the passengers rear along with both HiLos on the drivers side to get it even and high enough at the back. It still rubs occasionally at awkward angles on the front wheels, when steering off the drive for example, but I can live with that... for now at least.

 

Went to a local Cars and Coffee meet on Sunday morning, had a great time. Thought I'd keep one of the TVR convoys in good company  ;D.

 

26963405271_226660b06e_b.jpgDSCN0864 by Sven Cumner, on Flickr

 

26757763890_c76bb4e537_b.jpgDSCN0862 by Sven Cumner, on Flickr

 

26937608142_ed7928ef9c_b.jpgDSCN0861 by Sven Cumner, on Flickr

 

26998512276_2d86a15169_b.jpgDSCN0859 by Sven Cumner, on Flickr

 

26998451826_8f6a119547_b.jpgDSCN0865 by Sven Cumner, on Flickr

 

26426064734_6f76bc360e_b.jpgDSCN0869 by Sven Cumner, on Flickr

 

That's all for now, hopefully the next update will be a couple of pictures from L2B next weekend  :D.


Edited by The Otter, 16 May 2016 - 06:08 PM.


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Posted 17 May 2016 - 05:40 AM

She is looking sweet, look forward to seeing it at l2b next weekend :)



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Posted 22 May 2016 - 07:14 PM

Been following the thread for a while and saw your mini at L2B this weekend, the paint looks really nice. I actually used your wheels to show my Dad what I'm after as well :)



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Posted 23 May 2016 - 07:56 AM

Pretty sure I saw you on the m40 yesterday i'm guessing heading home from L2B? I has heading back home from a weekend in Scotland.



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Posted 27 May 2016 - 03:54 PM

Spotted on the a46 earlier ;)

Driving down the a46 and spotted in the distance a Mini, so I thought I would accelerate to catch up, then I saw the mk1 rear lights and low and behold, it was Sven!
Car looked and sounded great mate!




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