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[AVV IT]

And this mornings pet hate is parents who smother their children in factor 50 sun block at the first sight of sunshine! OK fair enough if your little darling is going to be out in the sun for an extended period of time, but I'm standing in the playground of my daughters nursery watching them smother their kids in the stuff in order to survive 10 mins of mid morning sunlight at playtime!

For gods sake people, don't you realise that whilst blocking out potentially harmful UV, you're also blocking out vitamin D, which is essential for healthy bone growth and development? So whilst your pale children may well be safe from skin cancer, you're also potentially giving them a lifetime of physical underdevelopment, osteoporosis and rickets to look toward to...... Nice one!!

[Ben_O]

I didn't know that happened!

 

My  mum never gave us sun cream! we played in the playground and caught the sun on our necks and faces. Whats wrong with that?

 

Only time i can remember having it was perhaps on a school trip but thats fair enough i suppose being out in it all day.

 

Ben

[Miniminx71]

I'm a believer in sunscreen for children - especially on the face as younger skin is very delicate and can burn so quick - even in 10 mins. Burnt skin is damaged skin and can cause moles/melanomas etc. The Vitamin D argument is valid, but you only need a very small amount of time in the sun to get your daily dose and you can get that through your arms or any exposed areas of skin literally in a few minutes.

[Bungle]

And this mornings pet hate is parents who smother their children in factor 50 sun block at the first sight of sunshine! OK fair enough if your little darling is going to be out in the sun for an extended period of time, but I'm standing in the playground of my daughters nursery watching them smother their kids in the stuff in order to survive 10 mins of mid morning sunlight at playtime!

For gods sake people, don't you realise that whilst blocking out potentially harmful UV, you're also blocking out vitamin D, which is essential for healthy bone growth and development? So whilst your pale children may well be safe from skin cancer, you're also potentially giving them a lifetime of physical underdevelopment, osteoporosis and rickets to look toward to...... Nice one!!

 

 

just dropped my daughter off at pre school this morning

 

as they are playing in the garden this morning  they were almost painting the children in the stuff , must of been factor 2000 as they all looked like white ghosts

 

 

i told them i had already put sun cream on my daughter as she is fine for a few hours and has my dark Cornish skin and doesn't burn

 

 

i guess they have to do it because they would be in trouble if a kid got sun burn

[AVV IT]

I'm a believer in sunscreen for children - especially on the face as younger skin is very delicate and can burn so quick - even in 10 mins. Burnt skin is damaged skin and can cause moles/melanomas etc. The Vitamin D argument is valid, but you only need a very small amount of time in the sun to get your daily dose and you can get that through your arms or any exposed areas of skin literally in a few minutes.

Interesting, I was discussing this with a dietician colleague recently, who was explaining that cases of vitamin D deficiency in middle class children has sky rocketed in the last 10 years. Apparently Vitamin D deficiency in children is normally associated with the under privileged and malnourished, so this increase is largely being put down to the over use of high factor sun block in this social group.

Similarly, kidney failure amongst immigrants from Asia has become disproportionally higher than any other ethnic group, this is believed to be due to the lack of vitamin D in their natural diet (Vitamin D also being needed for healthy kidney function). This isn't an issue in their native countries, due to their exposure to significant amounts of daily sunlight, but when they settle over here in drizzly/overcast Blighty, they simply don't get enough Vitimain D from the sunlight to compensate.

[M J W J]

In my experience anything less than factor 40 does sod all anyway.

 

My mum was forever having a go at me telling me to go outside and get a tan to protect myself against the sun before we went away on holiday.

 

A I'm ginger so I burn easily.

B There is no middle ground being ginger. Its either white or red.

C I cannot be ar**d to lie around in the sun trying to get a tan. I can think of far more productive things to do with my time.

 

I do use sunscreen but only when I will be out in the sun for a long period of time.

 

A baseball cap, long sleeve t shirt and trousers do a better job most of the time anyway.

[Miniminx71]

AVV IT, on 02 Jul 2014 - 1:24 PM, said:

 

Miniminx71, on 02 Jul 2014 - 10:52 AM, said:

I'm a believer in sunscreen for children - especially on the face as younger skin is very delicate and can burn so quick - even in 10 mins. Burnt skin is damaged skin and can cause moles/melanomas etc. The Vitamin D argument is valid, but you only need a very small amount of time in the sun to get your daily dose and you can get that through your arms or any exposed areas of skin literally in a few minutes.

Interesting, I was discussing this with a dietician colleague recently, who was explaining that cases of vitamin D deficiency in middle class children has sky rocketed in the last 10 years. Apparently Vitamin D deficiency in children is normally associated with the under privileged and malnourished, so this increase is largely being put down to the over use of high factor sun block in this social group.

Similarly, kidney failure amongst immigrants from Asia has become disproportionally higher than any other ethnic group, this is believed to be due to the lack of vitamin D in their natural diet (Vitamin D also being needed for healthy kidney function). This isn't an issue in their native countries, due to their exposure to significant amounts of daily sunlight, but when they settle over here in drizzly/overcast Blighty, they simply don't get enough Vitimain D from the sunlight to compensate.

 

Guess what it comes down to is whether you risk skin cancer or Vit D deficiency . Most skin cancer sites recommend wearing sunscreen of an SPF of at least 15 daily. Not sure there's any proven scientific link between sunscreen and Vit D deficiency.

[HarrysMini]

I thought you only get skin cancer if you let your skin burn? As it's damaging cells. 

 

I only ever use suncream when sailing, as it's really easy to get sunburnt on the water.

 

Also, it seems most parents don't even know how to apply it properly. They just cake their child in the stuff without actually rubbing it in, so it does nothing.

[Miniminx71]

I thought you only get skin cancer if you let your skin burn? As it's damaging cells. 

 

I only ever use suncream when sailing, as it's really easy to get sunburnt on the water.

 

Also, it seems most parents don't even know how to apply it properly. They just cake their child in the stuff without actually rubbing it in, so it does nothing.

Yes, but some children can burn in is as little as 10 minutes and if that happens enough, it increases the chances of getting skin cancer later on. At least if they're wearing some protection they can run around in the sun for 45 minute lunch break a little more safely I guess.

[Carlos W]

Always wear protection, you never know what you'll catch otherwise.

 

Oh no, that's a completely different conversation isn't it

[matt050990]

Always wear protection, you never know what you'll catch otherwise.

 

Oh no, that's a completely different conversation isn't it

Don't just wear it for protection, its to cover your tracks from the ones you would rather forget.....

[Ben_O]

I used to know a bloke who put one on just for....

 

Oh no, thats not for here oops

[skinnyminny]

Cannot STAND middle lane huggers. Also people who switch lanes in traffic. Just be a good British resident and queue politely. 

[Bungle]

keep up it's sun screen now

[Badboytunes]

I use Ambre Solaire Intense bronzing oil. Factor 1