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#1 charlieheal123

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Posted 14 November 2016 - 08:39 PM

Hi everyone,

 

I feel the need for more handbrake turns and skiddiness....

 

So I feel a good solution to my craving is to fit a hydraulic handbrake so I can be a pro drifter yeaaahhhh!! lol

 

No, but seriously, does anyone have any previous knowledge of doing this or where to start??

 

Any help is greatly appreciated!

 

Many Thanks

 

Charlie



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Posted 14 November 2016 - 08:53 PM

Just fit in line after any pressure regulator.

Easier to do on a single line system or a front rear split.

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Posted 14 November 2016 - 11:01 PM

The normal handbrake, adjusted properly is more than man enough for handbrake turns or skidding on maccy's trays, uh, my mate did it, honest :lol:

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Posted 14 November 2016 - 11:23 PM

http://www.minispare.../C-AJJ4019.aspx

Fly off handbrake mate, either buy the kit or make it yourself it your good with metal like I did.

Button is then used to lock the handbrake

Great for skids :) especially in the snow! And no need to Faff with hydraulics, plus acts as an anti theft device as pulling the handbrake whilst pressing the button like you would on a traditional one just make it go on harder!

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Posted 14 November 2016 - 11:48 PM

You don't say if this is a road car, but if it is just be mindful that if that is all you are using as a parking brake it will likely be illegal and fail its MOT.

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Posted 15 November 2016 - 03:25 PM

Where do you intend to do these handbrake turns? Are you intending to do proper autotests with a local motor club, or modern rallies?

 

If you do handbrake turns on public roads or in local car parks you might expect a 'tug' from the Old Bill which can result in an S.59 notice on you and your car or a summons for careless/dangerous driving.

 

You don't need a hydraulic handbrake for a Mini in motor-sport and for historic motor-sport they are not allowed.



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Posted 15 November 2016 - 03:28 PM

You might also have fun "drifting" a FWD Mini .. it will never stay out long enough as teh front drags the rear around .. proper drifting is all about power through the rear wheels to control the slide and forward motion ..



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Posted 15 November 2016 - 03:37 PM

You don't need a hydraulic handbrake for a Mini in motor-sport

makes Auto-testing a damn sight easier as does the knob on the big old steering wheel.

 

Woolley Edge services in the late 80s early 90s fun.



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Posted 15 November 2016 - 03:45 PM

I have one on the autotest mini. Its handy for some things.
But unless you're doing autotest or somethign similar you're just waisting time.



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Posted 15 November 2016 - 04:32 PM

I took my Grandson onto a proper skid pan in the 998 Mayfair he and I had just restored when he was 16. 

He drove it first and realised that it went into strong understeer with the power and lock on. I then showed him how to drive it at full throttle in 2nd gear using the handbrake to steer and the steering wheel just to balance the turn using only opposite lock. He was amazed at how that worked.

After about an hour of learning he was able to drive it that way and he sure learned a lot about low speed car control that day. 



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Posted 15 November 2016 - 05:28 PM

I wish I'd had you to train me up when I was wee Peter.  I had to make do with caning it a field learning for myself.



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Posted 15 November 2016 - 07:50 PM

I took my Grandson onto a proper skid pan in the 998 Mayfair he and I had just restored when he was 16. 
He drove it first and realised that it went into strong understeer with the power and lock on. I then showed him how to drive it at full throttle in 2nd gear using the handbrake to steer and the steering wheel just to balance the turn using only opposite lock. He was amazed at how that worked.
After about an hour of learning he was able to drive it that way and he sure learned a lot about low speed car control that day.

I'd love to learn skills like this. Can you get lessons at skid pans, even for cars like our mini's without ABS and clever traction control's?

Edited by fikasteve, 15 November 2016 - 07:50 PM.


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Posted 15 November 2016 - 09:06 PM

I don't know whether you can get professional skid pan lessons or how appropriate they would be for our little cars.
However, if we could rent one for, say, five of us for a day and share the cost I would be delighted to come along, pay my share and help with some coaching.

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Posted 15 November 2016 - 10:54 PM

I don't think we've got a skid pan over here any more.  They used to have one to train the bus drivers on (The IAM would use it too) but they obviously concentrate more on training bus drivers to be arrogant, awkward gits now!



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Posted 16 November 2016 - 06:37 AM

I don't think we've got a skid pan over here any more.  They used to have one to train the bus drivers on (The IAM would use it too) but they obviously concentrate more on training bus drivers to be arrogant, awkward gits now!


What do the police use?





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