Ok iv had winston for a year and a bit now, he started off his lie being built for rallying, with a 1310cc engine, cage, flip front, buckets but when i bought him all the rear subframe and ancillaries were about shot.
So after driving him for a year to and from college after having an 1275 and night out in the lincolnshire wolds with madmax and firends,and replacing the rear end in the summer, it eventually came for the time for my engine to die from lack of oil pressure and so i have been looking for different engine kits avauilable to see what i can afford. As i am at uni its taken me a while to save the money for an engien but hopfully in the next week i shall be taking a visit to morspeed for a new engine kit.... i shall keep updating with pics and info as it happens though there will be big breaks in between as i shall be returing to uni minus winston
Winston 1275- 1340cc
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Posted 19 January 2005 - 01:35 PM
ok after speaking to simon at morspeed a few misn ago it looks like he has already got a 1340 in so i shall be going to pick it up! just goign to take soem picks now so shud b up a little l8r
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Posted 19 January 2005 - 04:13 PM
sweet sounds like she's gonna move!!!
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Posted 19 January 2005 - 04:57 PM
nice one mate, bet you cant wait till its all in and ready to roll!
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Posted 19 January 2005 - 08:51 PM
flappy and i are off tomorrow morning nice and early to pick the 1340 beast up, will try get some pics of the morspeed workshop too
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Posted 20 January 2005 - 09:30 PM
wont let you upload owt mate. try a free photo host.
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Posted 20 January 2005 - 09:47 PM
1340 block, 0.60 dished pistons and rods, balanced crankshaft, phase 2 MSPD cam:
We spoke to a guy called Simon, he used to work for M.E.D and some people on this site know of his work. I would have to say that he is probably one of the best guys to talk to when consulting about what kind of bits and bobs you need to put together to create the right balance for your engine. We spent at least 3hrs talking to him today and weve come away with some excellent ideas. I'll let flappy do the rest of the explaining.
oh and we left screaming with laughter at some of the things he had 'lying' around
ahem, 1460 full race sprint engine in the waiting area
We spoke to a guy called Simon, he used to work for M.E.D and some people on this site know of his work. I would have to say that he is probably one of the best guys to talk to when consulting about what kind of bits and bobs you need to put together to create the right balance for your engine. We spent at least 3hrs talking to him today and weve come away with some excellent ideas. I'll let flappy do the rest of the explaining.
oh and we left screaming with laughter at some of the things he had 'lying' around
ahem, 1460 full race sprint engine in the waiting area
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Posted 20 January 2005 - 09:49 PM
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Posted 20 January 2005 - 11:24 PM
he he thats them^^^
Well we set off early this morning and finally got to the workshop around 10:30 spoke to Simon, as many people have done in the past(he's a sound guy) and finally decided on his 1340 kit with a phase 2 cam, i was origionally going for a phase 3 in the outlook of rallying it, but looking the the "2" its more than enough to give me a fast ride to the grave yard! We had to wait for him to finish the block but didnt mind waiting after all i wanted to b there all day! I also took my head in for some larger valves which were only £35 inc fitting and lapping whihc was great! Simons work is class A, and i cannot fault it, i jsut dont know how he can charge so little! After he finished the block, all the bits were layed out as can be seen in the pic above and got talking about my head, as i never knew really how modified it was or where it came from. It turns out its an injection head thats been modifed to near race spec apart from the valves which has confused a few poeple that iv spoken to. After a good look around it hadnt really been marked by anyone so it seems that a small company must have done it, but have done a good job of the ports so all that needed adding was some larger inlets to make use of the rest of the modifying. So hopfully with this head , cam and 1340 cc block it should go like a rocket, and next week im going back to have the flywheel lightened just for a biot more acceleration. Acording to simon, i should be looking at around 95bhp at the flywheel which is more than enough for me!
Im hoping to start building next week so shall steel madmax's phone again for construction pics
Well we set off early this morning and finally got to the workshop around 10:30 spoke to Simon, as many people have done in the past(he's a sound guy) and finally decided on his 1340 kit with a phase 2 cam, i was origionally going for a phase 3 in the outlook of rallying it, but looking the the "2" its more than enough to give me a fast ride to the grave yard! We had to wait for him to finish the block but didnt mind waiting after all i wanted to b there all day! I also took my head in for some larger valves which were only £35 inc fitting and lapping whihc was great! Simons work is class A, and i cannot fault it, i jsut dont know how he can charge so little! After he finished the block, all the bits were layed out as can be seen in the pic above and got talking about my head, as i never knew really how modified it was or where it came from. It turns out its an injection head thats been modifed to near race spec apart from the valves which has confused a few poeple that iv spoken to. After a good look around it hadnt really been marked by anyone so it seems that a small company must have done it, but have done a good job of the ports so all that needed adding was some larger inlets to make use of the rest of the modifying. So hopfully with this head , cam and 1340 cc block it should go like a rocket, and next week im going back to have the flywheel lightened just for a biot more acceleration. Acording to simon, i should be looking at around 95bhp at the flywheel which is more than enough for me!
Im hoping to start building next week so shall steel madmax's phone again for construction pics
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Posted 20 January 2005 - 11:30 PM
lol, yeh im really looking foward to it, though im really looking foward to building it now! just gota find the time with uni as the cars at home. As its my first full build its goign to b a bit of an experience so il keep updating with any problems i haveflappy and i are off tomorrow morning nice and early to pick the 1340 beast up, will try get some pics of the morspeed workshop too
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Posted 21 January 2005 - 09:16 AM
sounds good
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Posted 22 January 2005 - 11:23 AM
ok iv got a few blury pics now of the old engine:
Head- this is b4 it had the neve alves and b4 it was cleaned up
The old block stripped and ready to go to Morspeed for exchange
The old block had very uneven bore diameters as the piston slapped in the cylinder it wore it very quickly!
Bit of a groovy pic
The crank and old pistons in my kitchen, mum would kill me if she found out!
As can be seen on the third psiton i managed to chip bits off them when taking them out(should have pushed them up rater than trying to drop them out the bottom of the block like you can do with an 850)
Finaklly a couple of very blury pics of winston, il try to get some better pictures next time im home
Head- this is b4 it had the neve alves and b4 it was cleaned up
The old block stripped and ready to go to Morspeed for exchange
The old block had very uneven bore diameters as the piston slapped in the cylinder it wore it very quickly!
Bit of a groovy pic
The crank and old pistons in my kitchen, mum would kill me if she found out!
As can be seen on the third psiton i managed to chip bits off them when taking them out(should have pushed them up rater than trying to drop them out the bottom of the block like you can do with an 850)
Finaklly a couple of very blury pics of winston, il try to get some better pictures next time im home
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Posted 22 January 2005 - 11:24 AM
ah sorry bouit the size people, can anyone help me with shrinking them a little?
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Posted 22 January 2005 - 11:27 AM
looks good
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Posted 31 January 2005 - 02:35 PM
right, iv been back home to start the build. I set to on thursday night, i brought the block and bits into my kitchen where id be building most of it (iv got an ace mum). The first thing to do was clean the block and make sure it was spotless from surface rust, dust and acid residue. After doing this and slicing my hands a few times on the blocks machined edges, i set to following the MORSPEED instructions, cross refrencing with the haynes manual as the torque settings are a little different!
I placed the bearing shells in the caps and block on the mains! lightly oiling them all to make sure there would b a smooth fit! then placed the crank in and poped thrust washers in, and torqued down the middle bearing cap, making sure tha crank spun freely and checking the end float.After this the other two caps were placed on and torqued up! checked the crank again to make sure there was no tight spots and then turned the engine over to place the pistons in.
Using a borrowed spring compressor poped the first piston in making sure the bolts on the rod didnt hit the crank journal, b4 turning the block over and bolting the end cap on. After torquing it up i went to put the secont one one in and managed to snap the oil rng so im going back to morspeed this week to get another ring!
After getting the other pistons in i set to on popping the followers and cam in, followed by the timing plate! here was the next problem. The 3 bolt cam retainer wehn on fine but then there was the 2 countersunk screws for retaining the plate to the bearing cap and block. I had normal bolts from the old engine, this was fine for a single row chain but fouled the duplex ones and so i had to file the bolts down for now. Then went on the gears, the gear on the crank was quite tight so i kept goign round the inside of it with some emery cloth to make it a little looser
eventually got the timing gear on and set to painting the block and popping the core plugs in.
Next order will include a heardened diff pin, new LCB and some countersunk screws!will keep upsated and get some more photos. Im hoping for it to be finished in 2 weeks so i ahve a week to install and run in the engie b4 a trip with madmax to peter baldwins rollers
I placed the bearing shells in the caps and block on the mains! lightly oiling them all to make sure there would b a smooth fit! then placed the crank in and poped thrust washers in, and torqued down the middle bearing cap, making sure tha crank spun freely and checking the end float.After this the other two caps were placed on and torqued up! checked the crank again to make sure there was no tight spots and then turned the engine over to place the pistons in.
Using a borrowed spring compressor poped the first piston in making sure the bolts on the rod didnt hit the crank journal, b4 turning the block over and bolting the end cap on. After torquing it up i went to put the secont one one in and managed to snap the oil rng so im going back to morspeed this week to get another ring!
After getting the other pistons in i set to on popping the followers and cam in, followed by the timing plate! here was the next problem. The 3 bolt cam retainer wehn on fine but then there was the 2 countersunk screws for retaining the plate to the bearing cap and block. I had normal bolts from the old engine, this was fine for a single row chain but fouled the duplex ones and so i had to file the bolts down for now. Then went on the gears, the gear on the crank was quite tight so i kept goign round the inside of it with some emery cloth to make it a little looser
eventually got the timing gear on and set to painting the block and popping the core plugs in.
Next order will include a heardened diff pin, new LCB and some countersunk screws!will keep upsated and get some more photos. Im hoping for it to be finished in 2 weeks so i ahve a week to install and run in the engie b4 a trip with madmax to peter baldwins rollers
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