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[moggy]

Well I don't know unless you have a picture of your interior? If you have a centre console, you could drill a 11-12mm hole in it and sit a toggle switch in it.

I'll try and get some pics up tomora. I dont have a centre console

[moggy]

I know it's important and would not recommend to remove it but it does seem such a waste of a switch as you only press it to test the lamp and then only see it lit when there's a fault? I'm pretty sure current day vehicles utilise the warning light to indicate any type of brake fault (pads, fluid, etc.) so it must be do-able?

I'll have a go and report back later.

Cheers that will be a great help

Has anyone got any wiring diagrams which could explain how to wire the fogs to a switch ?

[yorkshirechris]

Did you not buy a wiring kit for them?

If not you need one, or else you could burn out the existing wiring.

[moggy]

Did you not buy a wiring kit for them?

If not you need one, or else you could burn out the existing wiring.

The fogs were already on when i bought the car, but they're wired up to come on when
the main beam comes on.

They are defo fogs not spots

[Dan]

Fogs wired to the main beam will be pointless, each defeats the purpose of the other. It will also mean that any time you have your main beams on in good weather you are breaking the law. It needs to be changed so you need to sort the switch problem. Why not use a second, lit headlamp switch to replace the rear fog switch and change the fronts over? The first position would give rear fogs only and the second position front and rear together. Only the rear fogs legally require a tell-tale so there is no problem with the switch having only one window. This is how I'm considering wiring my next setup. I can do diagrams if you need them.

You need a low brake fluid warning and the warning needs a method of fail testing the bulb. That's the law. Other cars fail test the bulb by using the same lamp to provide the handbrake warning, the lamp is tested every time the handbrake is applied. The Mini has no handbrake switch to wire it to.

Edited by Dan, 25 February 2008 - 12:35 AM.

[moggy]

[quote name='Dan' date='Feb 25 2008, 12:33 AM' post='860383']
Fogs wired to the main beam will be pointless, each defeats the purpose of the other. It will also mean that any time you have your main beams on in good weather you are breaking the law. It needs to be changed so you need to sort the switch problem. Why not use a second, lit headlamp switch to replace the rear fog switch and change the fronts over? The first position would give rear fogs only and the second position front and rear together. Only the rear fogs legally require a tell-tale so there is no problem with the switch having only one window. This is how I'm considering wiring my next setup. I can do diagrams if you need them.

You need a low brake fluid warning and the warning needs a method of fail testing the bulb. That's the law. Other cars fail test the bulb by using the same lamp to provide the handbrake warning, the lamp is tested every time the handbrake is applied. The Mini has no handbrake switch to wire it to.
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That is what i'm wanting to do (find a way of wiring them up as fogs not spots) but i'm not sure how i could do it so yes a diagram would be a massive

Cheers.

[moggy]

Bump ! ! !

[Dan]

Ok, I'll draw something up. You can't just decide to wire lamps up as either spots or fogs though. The beam pettern of the lamp determines what sort they are and you have to install them accordingly. If what you have are spot lamps they will have to be installed as spotlamps.

[moggy]

Ok, I'll draw something up. You can't just decide to wire lamps up as either spots or fogs though. The beam pettern of the lamp determines what sort they are and you have to install them accordingly. If what you have are spot lamps they will have to be installed as spotlamps.

They have a line pattern that runs the full vertical length of the lamp and continues from left to right all the way across.

Whoever wired these up have done so to use them as spots. I am going to mount a front fog rocker switch and am wanting to know if i can use the wire that runs to the main beam and re-route it to this switch ?

[Ethel]

I think you could stick the front of a fog switch on to the back of a light switch as the warning light is just a window in the rocker. Another alternative would be to wire in a separate brake warning lamp - or buzzer - with a test feed off the hazards or even the cranking position of the ignition switch.

Edited by Ethel, 27 March 2008 - 07:51 PM.

[sixwheeler]

For fear of being shot down in flames....

That brake test switch is virtually pointless and I'm sure not required for an MOT, a low fluid level lamp can't really be tested at MOT time. Perhaps it's one of those things that you are supposed to have but can't really be tested and no one really cares much about sort of things?

It can be completely replaced by opening the bonnet and looking at the fluid level!!!

Edited by sixwheeler, 27 March 2008 - 08:47 PM.

[charlie_the_miniboy]

to be honest you SHOULD open your bonnet and check the fluid not push that stupid button, mine lights up if you push it but i drained the fuild to replace loads of pipes and it stayed off, pointless,yes with the ignition on too
so as long as you check your fluid PROPERLY by opening the front up, you'll be fine and avoid the trees

[charlie_the_miniboy]

For fear of being shot down in flames....

That brake test switch is virtually pointless and I'm sure not required for an MOT, a low fluid level lamp can't really be tested at MOT time. Perhaps it's one of those things that you are supposed to have but can't really be tested and no one really cares much about sort of things?

It can be completely replaced by opening the bonnet and looking at the fluid level!!!

oops what he sed.. hehe, it might have been law for the makers not for the owners, but then again, my mates clubby and my old 74 van didn't have it.....


it's not needed

(i've just found some more grams to bin on mine ..... )

[moggy]

Are these in the position of fogs or spots ?

http://i260.photobuc...11/DSC00116.jpg