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#46 Jammy

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Posted 07 September 2008 - 08:46 PM

Not a bad penalty? He didn't cheat!! He took the other road to avoid an accident (which is exactly what its there for), and if he hadn't, if you'd seen what happened to Kovolenin (sp?) earlier in the race would have resulted in a drive through for McLaren regardless of blame (although I admin Heiki's drive through was fully justified).

And not a bad penalty?? Going from 8 points clear to 2 points clear, considering last years title race, its a potentially title losing penalty.

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Posted 07 September 2008 - 08:47 PM

how did he cheat? explain? looks like he got forced out, had the choice of continuing, hitting a kerb and smashing into kimi, or go over the run off area (which is what its used for) and then allow kimi back past him.

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Posted 07 September 2008 - 08:47 PM

Indeed he does, Martin is a tit, He races formula palmer audi which is an entry level single seater race series, When he used to race F1, it makes no scense.

Stop and Go's and drive thrus will never be a good enough "punishment", I think they should fit a dvice similar to what you find on a ps2 game, like a pit lane limiter, which limits the engine to a certain amount of revs until the disadvantaged person has got past.

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Posted 07 September 2008 - 08:59 PM

The Aussies smell a rat...

http://news.smh.com....80908-4bkt.html

How I wish Senna and Prost were still racing, they'd keep the stewards busy. :D

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Posted 07 September 2008 - 09:01 PM

right

if u watch (even tho i dont like hamilton) him being english was very clever.

if u watch over and over again you will see that he didnt take much pushing onto the over run.

if u watch the difference between the two speeds hamilton slows down for a split second as he gets back on the track and as kimi floors it hamilton is already on the gas way before meaning that kimi will overtake for a second but hamilton is going faster.

i can prove this because if u look kimis ferrari has beter straight line speed and kimi was on the racing line. and for some amazing reason hamilton was faster for 1 straight in the race.

and for the penaly they could have desqualified him from the race altogether. meclaren have payed the fia well

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Posted 07 September 2008 - 09:05 PM

right

if u watch (even tho i dont like hamilton) him being english was very clever.

if u watch over and over again you will see that he didnt take much pushing onto the over run.

if u watch the difference between the two speeds hamilton slows down for a split second as he gets back on the track and as kimi floors it hamilton is already on the gas way before meaning that kimi will overtake for a second but hamilton is going faster.

i can prove this because if u look kimis ferrari has beter straight line speed and kimi was on the racing line. and for some amazing reason hamilton was faster for 1 straight in the race.

and for the penaly they could have desqualified him from the race altogether. meclaren have payed the fia well

Being English?? Huh!?

Its quite clear as he enters the corner that Hamilton can either hit Kimi, or go on the run off, any driver with half an ounce of talent and common sense would have done what Lewis did.

If Kimi goes past Lewis then he is accelerating quicker than Lewis, no two ways about it, thats simple physics. If Lewis beat Kimi to the corner then Kimi slowed more than Kimi in the run up to the corner, completely seperate to what had happened at the chicane.

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Posted 07 September 2008 - 09:09 PM

Hamilton Shouldnt have even tried to make the move, you can see the point at which he commits to the manouver and everything starts to go wrong, its obvious Kimi Is going to stick the Faster Clean Racing Line, He isnt going to leave the door open is he.

Edited by Mini-Mad-Craig, 07 September 2008 - 09:10 PM.


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Posted 07 September 2008 - 09:13 PM

Regarless of what happened at the chichane, Lewis won because Kimi crashed out.

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Posted 07 September 2008 - 09:14 PM

True.

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Posted 07 September 2008 - 09:17 PM

and the reason he was able to go faster on the one straight was that he managed to get in the slipstream and outbreak kimi which is an area that he is superb at

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Posted 07 September 2008 - 09:18 PM

Yeah, I think the telelmentry for this race would be interesting, just to see how much Mph Lewis was making out of a "tow" each lap.

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Posted 07 September 2008 - 09:26 PM

from the mclaren web site lewis was 6kmph slower over the start finish line than Kimi

so no he didn't get a better run out of the corner

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Posted 07 September 2008 - 09:29 PM

Apparently he lowered the revs in the car to allow the ferrari to pass. No he didnt, he damaged the undertray going over the curbs :D

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Posted 07 September 2008 - 09:36 PM

The rule starts that you can't "gain an advantage" which he did due to the fact that he did not make the apex and overtook on the next corner.
The run off areas had just as much grip in the conditions (as we saw when Kimi went onto the run off araa earlier) and even if the speed was slower the distance covered would be less.

The smart thing to do would have been to wait as he was quicker in the rain anyway but that is just experience!!

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Posted 07 September 2008 - 09:45 PM

why wait? They were running on slicks. you wouldnt be able to lay down all the horsepower because it would just cause the wheels to spin even in a straight line aplying a small amount of power.




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